or get a separate SBC...

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Tony Graziano
<[email protected]>wrote:

> and to be a little more picky about "why"
>
> port forwarding does not actually change the destination of the sip
> message.when you have an invite to port 5060 and forward it to port 5080 in
> your firewall, the original sip message and header is stills saying port
> 5060. so unless you have a way to intercept and rewrite the actual sip
> messages, finding an itsp that can send you calls on port 5080 might
> actually be easier.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Michael Picher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Tony has it right...
>>
>> Don't confuse how you initiate a SIP conversation vs. how the itsp
>> initiates a SIP conversation.
>>
>> You can initiate and send to them on 5060 and your firewall remembers
>> what's going on.
>>
>> The need to send to you on 5080 for sipXbridge.  They can send from
>> whatever port they'd like.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Tony Graziano <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> to clear this up...
>>>
>>> if you register from sipx, unless you change the defaults, it will
>>> register on port 5080. The ITSP "should" follow your registration port and
>>> send the calls on the same port. The cal from the ITSP will originate from
>>> port 5060 and have a destination of 5080. At the same time, calls FROM sipx
>>> will originate and have a destination port of 5060 (by default).
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think there is an error in this response.
>>>>
>>>> " note: if you send REGISTRATION to the itsp, it will come
>>>> FROM port 5080, and they should RESPON on port 5060.
>>>> if you use ip based authentication, and not registration,
>>>> set everything on sipx back to normal (might need to delete
>>>> gateway), ask them to send trunking to 5080, and see what
>>>> happens."
>>>>
>>>> I believe it should read that "if you send registration to the ITSP, it
>>>> will
>>>> come from Port 5060, and they should Respon on 5080."  The ports are
>>>> reversed.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael
>>>> Scheidell
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:36 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] ITSP signalling problem 32 second cut off
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it sounds like your itsp wants to send trunking to port
>>>> 5060, when sipx wants it on 5080.  it also sounds like you
>>>> (patted) port natted inbound 5060 to 5080, and expected it
>>>> to work.
>>>> (it won't work like that on pfsense).
>>>>
>>>> and/or, you tried to set the trunk port to 5060 on one of
>>>> the sipx configuration screens (that won't work either),
>>>> sipx is toying with the idea of making this work right in
>>>> sipx 4.6.
>>>>
>>>> if I misunderstood your steps, sorry, but I have fought this
>>>> issue for over a year.
>>>>
>>>> the recommend way to fix it is get an sbc that will answer
>>>> on 5060, but proxy it to sipx on 5080.
>>>>
>>>> I DO have a firewall in place that will PAT inbound 5060 to
>>>> 5080, but its tricky, doesn't seem to work for everyone, so
>>>> its a 'ymmv'.
>>>>
>>>> other issues might be that you don't have your fireall with
>>>> 'alg' turned off, and/or you might be using some firewall
>>>> with 'sip helpers'.
>>>>
>>>> sipx doesn't like alg, or sip helpers.  sipx wants to do all
>>>> the heavy lifting themselves.
>>>>
>>>> so, you might have multiple problems, compounded by trying
>>>> to PAT 5060 to 5080,
>>>>
>>>> note: if you send REGISTRATION to the itsp, it will come
>>>> FROM port 5080, and they should RESPON on port 5060.
>>>> if you use ip based authentication, and not registration,
>>>> set everything on sipx back to normal (might need to delete
>>>> gateway), ask them to send trunking to 5080, and see what
>>>> happens.
>>>>
>>>> we do like the features of sipx, and they really can't be
>>>> beat, even if you needed to pay for it!.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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