i don't think anybody committed to that...  i think Paul said he'd try it
but he's not a dev.

If you want to commit some code you could post it to that Jira and it can be
considered.

Thanks,
  Mike

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:46 AM, cyril constantin <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok cool so I was raising a JIRA do I need to continue ? If you fix it next
> week does it will be included into #Update 11 ?
>
> because I really need it for my production :)
>
> Thanks a lot for your feedback guys.
>
> Regards
>
> 2011/9/9 <[email protected]>
>
> This is what Robert had to say about it:
>> Me:
>>  > Other point: when Counterpath fixes the problem is the
>> > provisioning of Bria then still OK?
>> > If I am not mistaken Sipx now delivers
>> >         proxies:proxy1:domain="FQDN"
>> > and it should be
>> >         proxies:proxy1:domain="Sipx/XMPP domain"
>> >
>> > So I think it would be nice to create a boolean in SipX in
>> > the Bria Pro phone group to be able to change to Sipx/XMPP domain.
>> > Otherwise we will still be stuck when the problem is fixed on
>> > their side.
>> Robert:
>> When a Bria version comes out with the XMPP bug fixed, we will
>> change the provisioning back to provide the XMPP domain instead of
>> the FQDN and  we will stop supporting older 'broken' versions.
>>
>> If I find the time I will try to test the sip-domain == XMPP domain !=
>> FQHN with Bria next week as well.
>>
>>
>> Michael Picher <[email protected]> wrote on 09-09-2011 17:16:06:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'd open a Jira if you think there's something to be improved...
>>
>> >
>> > http://track.sipfoundry.org
>> >
>> >
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, cyril constantin <
>> [email protected]
>> > > wrote:
>> > Yes I have simply created an XMPP account on Bria by specifying only
>> > my domain name, so webcti.local and it works pretty well.
>> >
>> > So I think that it's just necessary to change on sipxecs side the
>> > provisioning feature for providing for XMPP account the domain.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>>
>> > 2011/9/9 Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
>> > do you have something from counterpath saying they support SRV?
>> >
>> > i would re-read paul's last post about SRV lookups. I would confirm
>> > this with Counterpath. I would then ask them for their provisioning
>> > datasheet in case there are additional parameters to add there. Try
>> > to see if you can do a manual xmpp only account (like gmail) without
>> > specifying hostname.
>> >
>> > we "should" have the new provisioning "spreadsheet" from them if we
>> > need to make changes instead of aiming in the dark.
>> >
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:59 AM, cyril constantin <
>> [email protected]
>> > > wrote:
>> > it looks that Bria is supporting XMPP SRV so I don't understand why
>> > provisioning is pushing hostname for the Domain part instead of the
>> > Domain name only.
>> >
>> > I have change manually the configuration into Bria from
>> > ps0sipx01.webcti.local to webcti.local and I register again and then
>> > I can see SRV query from Bria
>> >
>> > I did wireshark traces and I can see :
>> >
>> > Standard Query SRV    _xmpp-client.tcp.webcti.local
>> > Standard query response  SRV 1 0 5222 ps0sipx01.webcti.local
>> >
>> > So it looks for me normal to change the way how work provisioning by
>> > sending Domain instead of hostname and it make sense to provide to
>> > Bria the domain name instead of hostname where is hosted Openfire as
>> > Bria is able to do SRV query.
>> >
>> > It was maybe insteresting to provide hostname with older version of
>> > Bria but now it looks able to resolve SRV so you should provide
>> > domain instead of hostname.
>> >
>> > Let me know if I'm wrong.
>> >
>> > Best Regards.
>> >
>> > Cyril
>> >
>> > 2011/9/9 Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
>> > I would refrain from making the domain and host the same.
>> > On Sep 9, 2011 10:26 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > Hi Cyril,
>> > >
>> > > You really should bang Counterpath on their heads, they are not doing
>> what
>> > > they should be doing.
>> > > If I use XMPP on Bria I lose the XMPP session 5 to 10 times a day, so
>> it's
>> > > not useable anyhow.
>> > > Some people have less issues, but that's probably because they only
>> added
>> > > 2 or 3 XMPP contacts.
>> > >
>> > > But on the XMPP case, here is a note that I send to them a long time
>> ago
>> > > (december 2010):
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > On request of Sylvain I report this problem with XMPP.
>> > >
>> > > When using XMPP in Bria we seem to be seeing a strange behavior.
>> > > As most XMPP traffic is encrypted I don't know what exactly goes
>> wrong.
>> > >
>> > > In my opinion it should be possible to have an XMPP domain (SRV
>> record)
>> > > that is not equal to a Host name (A-record).
>> > >
>> > > In the attached trace xmppEQsip2.pcap you can see what happens if the
>> xmpp
>> > > domain field in Bria actually has a domain name configured (that is
>> the
>> > > same as the sip domain).
>> > > -first an SRV lookup of the domain is performed, returning an A record
>> > > - the A record is resolved
>> > > - a session is set up to the correct address
>> > > - some, partly encrypted, xmpp traffic flows
>> > > - session is ended by the client
>> > >
>> > > In the second attached trace xmppEQhost2.pcap you can see what happens
>> if
>> > > the xmpp domain field in Bria equals the hostname of the XMPP server
>> (so
>> > > xmpp domain == FQDN of the host).
>> > > -first an SRV lookup of the "domain" is performed, because the
>> "domain" is
>> > > actually an A record "no such name" is returned
>> > > - the A record is resolved
>> > > - a session is set up to the correct address
>> > > - some, partly encrypted, xmpp traffic flows
>> > > - all works fine
>> > >
>> > > Drawback of the second solution is that I can't choose the hostname of
>> my
>> > > XMPP server, it has to be the same as the XMPP domain.
>> > > Also it is not standards compliant I think. Other XMPP clients have no
>>
>> > > problem with the firt setup.
>> > >
>> > > Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincères salutations
>> > >
>> > > Paul Scheepens
>> > >
>> > > As I have said before, if Bria is not getting their act together then
>> they
>> > > are in real trouble.
>> > > Since they came out with 3.0 it really did not move a lot.
>> > >
>> > > We use it for decent HD video conferencing
>> > > [email protected] wrote on 09-09-2011 15:54:40:
>> > >
>> > >> From:
>> > >>
>> > >> cyril constantin <[email protected]>
>> > >>
>> > >> To:
>> > >>
>> > >> Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>> > > <[email protected]>
>> > >>
>> > >> Date:
>> > >>
>> > >> 09-09-2011 15:55
>> > >>
>> > >> Subject:
>> > >>
>> > >> Re: [sipx-users] Instant Message group - Bria 3.2.1
>> > >>
>> > >> Sent by:
>> > >>
>> > >> [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> Anyone knows where I can change in a config file the XMPP hostname
>> > >> per the XMPP domain name for Bria provisioning as it looks
>> > >> impossible to do from GUI ?
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards.
>> > >>
>> > >> 2011/9/9 Michael Picher <[email protected]>
>> > >> yea, but Polycom phones can monitor your presence as can other XMPP
>> > >> users connected to sipXecs.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Tony Graziano
>> > > <[email protected]
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> dont expect to see anything in there in regard to workgroup until
>> > >> you populate it in speeddial in sipx and log back in with bria tho...
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Michael Picher <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >> Also, under the presence tab you will typically want to enable
>> > >> workgroup and set the workgroup address to:
>> sip:~~rl~C~YOUREXT@sipdomain
>> > >>
>> > >> where: YOUREXT = your system extension
>> > >> and: sipdomain = your sip domain
>> > >>
>> > >> Also check 'Allow others to monitor my call activity'
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> Mike
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Tony Graziano
>> > > <[email protected]
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> once the phone loads its accounts, open the XMPP account and confirm
>> > >> the provisioned values are:
>> > >>
>> > >> 1. user (i.e. 200 not 200@)
>> > >> 2. domain (needs to be hostname, not sip domain)
>> > >> 3. password
>> > >>
>> > >> at least that is how mine is working
>> > >>
>> > >> under advanced
>> > >>
>> > >> port selection=auto
>> > >> connect port=<outbound proxy=<empty>
>> > >> resource=<empty>
>> > >> priority=0
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> 3.2.1 the latest
>> > >>
>> > >> From: Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
>> > >> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:20:49 -0400
>> > >> To: <[email protected]>
>> > >> Cc: Sipx-users Discussion List for users of sipXecs software<sipx-
>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Instant Message group - Bria 3.2.1
>> > >>
>> > >> what is the exact bria version you are running?
>> > >
>> > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> My config is generated by sipx when I'm using provisioning
>> > > functionnality.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> From: Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
>> > >> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 15:41:48 -0400
>> > >> To: <[email protected]>; Discussion list for users of
>> > >> sipXecs software<[email protected]>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Instant Message group - Bria 3.2.1
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm familiar with some of the bria idiosyncrasies, but not as up to
>> > >> date on them since i decided their product was not something that
>> > >> was worth my effort at this time. i spend more time and money with
>> > >> every release they make trying to figure out what broke, it became
>> > >> pointless to pursue and use the product any longer.
>> > >>
>> > >> Where is the config file being generated? manually or by sipx
>> directly?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> Hi Tony,
>> > >>
>> > >> The hostname is already created as an alias on the domain menu of
>> > >> sipxecs, it has been done automatically when I have upgraded sipxecs
>> > >> in the past to #update 9.
>> > >>
>> > >> So why it works when I change into Bria ps0sipx01.webcti.local to
>> > >> webcti.local if they don't support XMPP SRV ?
>> > >>
>> > >> It looks that Bria doesn't permit to use instant message if XMPP
>> > >> account domain is not the same than the xmpp contact domain.
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
>> > >> Sender: [email protected]
>> > >> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 12:26:42
>> > >> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software<sipx-
>> > >> [email protected]>
>> > >> Reply-To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>> > >> <[email protected]>
>> > >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Instant Message group - Bria 3.2.1
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
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>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> ======================
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>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>> > >> sip: [email protected]
>> > >> Fax: 434.465.6833
>> > >>
>> > >> Email: [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>> > >> sip: [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
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>> > >>
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>> > >>
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>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>> > >> sip: [email protected]
>> > >> Fax: 434.465.6833
>> > >>
>> > >> Email: [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8426
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>> > >>
>> > >> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>> > >> http://support.myitdepartment.net
>> > >>
>> > >> Blog:
>> > >> http://blog.myitdepartment.net
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>> > >>
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>> > >> Tony Graziano, Manager
>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>> > >> sip: [email protected]
>> > >> Fax: 434.465.6833
>> > >>
>> > >> Email: [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>> > >> sip: [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>> > >> http://support.myitdepartment.net
>> > >>
>> > >> Blog:
>> > >> http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>> > >>
>> > >> Linked-In Profile:
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>> > >>
>> > >> Ask about our Internet faxservices!
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>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Michael Picher
>> > >> eZuce
>> > >> Director of Technical Services
>> > >> O.978-296-1005 X2015
>> > >> M.207-956-0262
>> > >> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher>
>> > >> www.ezuce.com
>> > >
>> > >>
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>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> ======================
>> > >> Tony Graziano, Manager
>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>> > >> sip: [email protected]
>> > >> Fax: 434.465.6833
>> > >>
>> > >> Email: [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> > >> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>> > >> sip: [email protected]
>> > >>
>> > >> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>> > >> http://support.myitdepartment.net
>> > >>
>> > >> Blog:
>> > >> http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>> > >>
>> > >> Linked-In Profile:
>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>> > >>
>> > >> Ask about our Internet faxservices!
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>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Michael Picher
>> > >> eZuce
>> > >> Director of Technical Services
>> > >> O.978-296-1005 X2015
>> > >> M.207-956-0262
>> > >> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher>
>> > >> www.ezuce.com
>> > >
>> > >>
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>> >
>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > ======================
>> > Tony Graziano, Manager
>> > Telephone: 434.984.8430
>> > sip: [email protected]
>> > Fax: 434.465.6833
>> >
>> > Email: [email protected]
>> >
>> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> > Telephone: 434.984.8426
>> > sip: [email protected]
>> >
>> > Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>> > http://support.myitdepartment.net
>> >
>> > Blog:
>> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net
>> >
>> > Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4
>> >
>> > Ask about our Internet faxservices!
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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>> >
>> > --
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>> > eZuce
>> > Director of Technical Services
>> > O.978-296-1005 X2015
>> > M.207-956-0262
>> > @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher>
>> > www.ezuce.com
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