I doubt that will make a difference. Chicago is a brand new switch, it has
the same issue with voicemail, just tested.

I think it ought to be determined if this is a sipxbridge issue or voip.msissue.

Alternatively, your voicemail should say "please dont talk over 60 seconds,
make it quick! <BEEP>".

It's strange that its always at 60 seconds, which makes me wonder if
sipxbridge stops sending RTP keepalive during a freeswitch session. If so,
that would not be good, but strange it only happens with some voip.ms POP's.


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> wrote:

> I believe VOIP.ms is in the process of updating their switches.  I was
> told several months ago that Seattle and one other were the two newest.
> Makes me wonder if only the old ones work correctly, and their new platform
> does not?****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony Graziano
> *Sent:* Friday, November 11, 2011 1:55 PM
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] 1 Minute Voicemails with Voip.ms****
>
> ** **
>
> Nevermind. I decided that would not work.****
>
> ** **
>
> I thought the real question is... when the call comes into the Media
> Server (Freeswitch), is sipxbridge STILL sending any keepalive back on RTP
> packets. I suspect it is not, because if it did, it probably wouldn't
> hangup at the other end on you.****
>
> ** **
>
> Now the real question is -- If sipxbridge is handling the call and the
> caller hits the voicemail system, does sipxbridge continue to handle rtp
> keepalive (if so, its not working) or does freeswitch. if freeswitch is (i
> can't imagine it does, but...) then sipxbridge ought to be able to know
> this and handle the keepalive or forward it.****
>
> ** **
>
> Since voip.ms evidently watched a call not get sent the keepalive, and I
> registered a DID to atlanta just now and tried EVERY rtp keepalive setting
> in sipxbridge, we ought to zero in on "what is sipxbridge not doing
> correctly" or "what is sipxbridge sending properly that voip.ms is not
> interpreting correctly".****
>
> ** **
>
> Have you performed a call trace (media/bridge at debug) and got a packet
> capture? If you do that and think that sipxbridge is not doing something
> properly, a JIRA ought to be opened. Since noone else has these issues with
> other carriers (that have been reported), it might just be a voip.msthing, 
> and if it is their problem, they need to be made aware of it too.
> ****
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Tony Graziano <
> [email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Have you set the gateway in sipx to "Use Dummy RTP payload" and registered
> to one of their red headed stepchildren POP's? I say stepchild, because
> they seem to treat all pop's differently or with favoritism. I'm sure those
> POP's got what they deserve though.****
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Gerald Drouillard <
> [email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Does anyone know of a sipx rtp "keepalive" setting during voicemail?
> I just wanted to share this experience for anyone in the future having
> this problem:****
>
> 02:37:02 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Yes, and the voicemail message is
> capped at exactly 1 min everytime with the 2 dids on this account.
> 02:37:57 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Calling in through a different ITSP to
> the same extension does not have that problem.
> 02:38:31 PM *[Albert]* I see. Please hold on a moment.
> 02:38:41 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Under this same account the other
> subaccount does not have the problem
> 02:40:22 PM *[Albert]* You're using the same PBX and the same network?
> 02:41:04 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Same version of pbx different location
> 02:41:22 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I actually have 2 other locations
> working fine
> 02:42:33 PM *[Albert]* Ok. Let me check your settings one more time.
> 02:46:44 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I see a rate limiting entry on the
> firewall. I disabled and will try again.
> 02:48:41 PM *[Albert]* Sure let me know if that helps.
> 02:49:18 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Nope.
> 02:52:31 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* The "bye" does come from your system.
> 02:53:43 PM *[Albert]* Ok, hold on a moment.
> 02:55:22 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Is there a "hang up on 1 min of silence
> coming from my pbx" setting on your side?
> 02:59:11 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I am rebooting the system now to
> disable one other iptables rule.
> 02:59:59 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Keep in mind though it does work coming
> in from another ITSP
> 03:00:57 PM *[Albert]* Yes, we understand. We are currently reviewing the
> trace. Please make any test that you try convenient and let us know if that
> helps.
> 03:09:22 PM *[Albert]* Gerald, can you let me know if the call that goes
> to your voicemail is put in hold or something like that.
> 03:10:26 PM *[Albert]* Because we don't have any timeout setting if the
> call remain in silence during a period of time.
> 03:14:22 PM *[Albert]* Also notice that at the moment our server have a
> timeout of 60 seconds if we don't receive any RTP packages. In that case if
> your system/device doesn't send any RTP package during that time the call
> is ended.
> 03:15:26 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I doubt it, the trace shows ringing,
> then IVR.
> 03:15:54 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* When leaving a voicemail over 60 sec?
> 03:16:27 PM *[Albert]* Gerald can you please make a test using our
> newyork or Los Angeles, we have that setting to 15 minutes in those servers.
> 03:17:17 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* ok. Do I have to switch the subaccount
> setting or can I just log into newyork?
> 03:18:06 PM *[Albert]* You need to change the server in your system and
> also change the Point of Presence in the DID number.
> 03:21:32 PM *[Albert]* Gerald, once you change those settings, please
> test again.
> 03:22:28 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* The settings are changed. The pbx is
> logging into newyork
> 03:22:44 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I'll make the call now
> 03:22:50 PM *[Albert]* Ok. Sure.
> 03:25:45 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* That seems to be working. Got past 1 min
> 03:25:59 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* What pop's have the 60 sec rule?
> 03:27:00 PM *[Albert]* Only Newyork and los Angeles have a rule to 15
> minutes. For the other servers is set to 60 seconds.
> 03:28:10 PM *[Albert]* What seems to be happening is that the device
> stops sending RTP packages when enters to voicemail. Please try to find a
> settings that avoids this behavior and that issue should not occur.
> 03:28:57 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* Why would it send RTP if it does not
> have to send anything in vm?
> 03:29:11 PM *[Albert]* In order to keep the connection alive.
> 03:29:40 PM *[Albert]* I can also suggest that you perform a firmware
> update to see if that helps.
> 03:30:16 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* All systems are up to date.
> 03:30:36 PM *[Albert]* Please notice, that this is a security measure in
> order to avoid the calls keep connected when the device is not sending any
> information.
> 03:31:13 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* There is a keep alive setting that is
> set to none at the moment. I am guessing that needs to be RTP for you?
> 03:33:36 PM *[Albert]* That settings usually works for the registration.
> 03:34:28 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* I don't think there is a setting during
> voicemail to "keepalive"
> 03:34:32 PM *[Albert]* The keep alive setting, it's to prevent a router
> from closing it's NAT External port.
> 03:35:06 PM *[Albert]* In that case Gerald, I can suggest that you use
> our Newyork or Los Angeles server for the meantime.
> 03:35:35 PM *[Gerald Drouillard]* There is a NAT setting in voip.ms.
> Would turning that off work?
> 03:36:56 PM *[Albert]* No, that would not work. Please notice that you
> need to find any setting related with the RTP packages.****
>
>
>
> ****
>
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>
> --------------------------------------****
>
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