The Fiat is prettier. The Mini is a better mechnically and lends itself to
a lot of nice performance hacks and improvements. Form or function.

Fiat commercials are much more stimulating (especially if you can
understand the Italian ones).

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]> wrote:

> i have a spa3102 at home that directly connects to my voip.ms account.
>  and i do the same with google voice...
>
> every time i have to mess with the thing i want to slit my wrists...  the
> only reason why i'm using it is because voip.ms had a complete template
> for it that just worked and I had it laying around.  i just really don't
> like the config.  they might be perfectly capable devices, and if you know
> them, great.  i just really, really hate them.
>
> i know that's not loaded with specifics.  :-)  It's more like, why do I
> like my Mini better than a Fiat 500.  They both have 4 wheels and a
> steering wheel and small engines.  The Fiat just sucks.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Stiles Watson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  I'll post the M-ATA follow-up question as a separate email so others
>> might engage.
>>
>> Also, Mike, why don't you like the Linksys SPAs? I really would like your
>> take on it.
>>
>> I have an SPA2102 at home which connects directly to Flowroute and has a
>> DECT phone connected to it. Flowroute does not support v-mail so I have
>> call forwarding to a Google voice account after 20 seconds. The account is
>> configured to send everything to v-mail. I get no MWI on the device, but I
>> do get an email. I think the interface to the device is very clunky, but if
>> all the config can be done in sipX, I'm not sure I care. Originally, I had
>> to reboot the device every few weeks, but that issue seems to have resolved
>> itself which leads me to believe the problem was not with the device itself.
>>
>> Stiles
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/04/2012 12:28 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
>>
>> forgot the wireless part (silly me, see subject).
>>
>>  the follow up question should be "Anyone using an M-ATA for remote
>> users with sipx?"
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> sure, but if he wants a cordless phone out there this isn't an option...
>>>  which is how this discussion began.  if all you are doing is hanging a
>>> single phone out there, is there really need for more than the smartlink?
>>>  I think not...  unless nat traversal on it doesn't work.
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Tony Graziano <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  the smartlink is a very basic device. I've gotten feedback from a few
>>>> people and they seem to have a lot of functionality stripped out compared
>>>> to the regular smart node.
>>>>
>>>>  IMO - A small Polycom is much more robust than an ATA for a remote
>>>> worker.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i hear the patton smartlink devices work pretty well:
>>>>> http://patton.com/products/product_detail.asp?id=328
>>>>>
>>>>>  their smartnode products of course work well and we know they work...
>>>>>
>>>>>  Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Stiles Watson <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a better SPA type device that anyone recommends?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stiles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:28:46 -0400, Michael Picher <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not a huge fan of the linksys devices...  but if you can make it work
>>>>>> locally, you can make it work through a VPN tunnel easy enough.  no info 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> remotely.
>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Stiles Watson <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Either one of these may be a good option for my specific case. Do
>>>>>>> either the SPA 2102 or 3102 work well remotely over VPN? What about 
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> VPN?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stiles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 06:51:33 -0400, Michael Picher <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also run Bria on an iPhone/Android (no bluetooth yet on
>>>>>>> android) over Wifi, or hook up an analog gateway and use a standard
>>>>>>> analog/dect wireless phone.
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Stiles Watson <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone recommend the Snom M9 for a remote ext? The remote worker
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> needs to make and receive calls and have access to v-mail. A DID
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be assigned directly to this phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see there is a template for the eol m3. Is the m9 setup similar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stiles
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