or could be stun too if the media relay's just off in left field.

i would setup for static outside address if you haven't.

mike

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Tony Graziano <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Most likely if that is the router sitting in front of sipx, yes. It's a
> prerequisite for media relay to function.
>
> 1. Server behind nat has to be enabled.
> 2. Support remote workers needs to be enabled (sip trunking does not need
> to be enabled for remote workers, media relay does).
> 3. NAT for server needs to have access to a public IP address by getting
> it via STUN server or manually entering it.
> 4. Firewall in front of sipx needs to be able to do symmetrical outbound
> NAT (AON or FULL CONE NATE, at least for the outbound NAT of the sipx
> internal address) and have any SIP helper turned off.
>
> If the two routers are adjacent and you can route (without NAT) you would
> simply do so and add the PC subnet to the intranets page in sipx ONLY IF it
> does not have to pass through NAT (i.e route or site to site vpn, etc.).
>
> Your router is changing the ports and hence sipx is expecting the audio to
> come back on a port that isnt being sent by the router.
>
> 2012/4/19 Simon Brûlé <[email protected]>
>
>> So your saying the problem may come from the router I have (Linksys
>> E2500) because it's not doing the symmetrical Nat so the RTP is getting
>> lost?
>>
>> 2012/4/19 Tony Graziano <[email protected]>
>>
>>> If there is NAT between your PC and the sipx server then:
>>>
>>> 1. The local firewall to your PC needs to have any SIP helper or
>>> Application Layer Gateway "turned off".
>>> 2. At your firewall where sipx is the  SIP helper or Application Layer
>>> Gateway " needs to be turned off AND the NAT type for the outbound NAT from
>>> the sipx server needs to be symmterical. Home brew and residential routers
>>> usually will not do this.
>>> 3. If you have an entry in your intranet subnets that includes the PC
>>> network number it must be listed ONLY IF IF DOES NOT GO THROUGH NAT.
>>>
>>> One of these three (or a combination of them) is keeping RTP from
>>> flowing.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/4/19 Simon Brûlé <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> I used the following command on the SipXecs server *tcpdump -n -s 0 -i
>>>> any -w filename.cap* and then I transfer it on my computer so I could
>>>> open it with my Wireshark and have a look at it.
>>>>
>>>> I joined the file to this e-mail so you could take a look and tell me
>>>> what you think. This one is from a call I did from the softphone to the
>>>> Hardphone where this one bugged like I described earlier.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> 2012/4/19 Simon Brûlé <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> As i dig more and more in Wireshark i came to the conclusion that the
>>>>> Wireshark information that I just sent you is pretty much useless as I now
>>>>> see it. I will keep looking for some piece of information that could help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/4/19 Simon Brûlé <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My Computer is connected in the Lan of the company and my E2500 is
>>>>>> connected in this Lan too. My Server SipXecs and my hardphone are on the
>>>>>> E2500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So there is an other router between my computer and the router that
>>>>>> have my Server connected on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the Wireshark part when I answer the phonecall I do from the
>>>>>> softphone to my hardĥone those request are coming in until i close the 
>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 109 19.596310 192.168.175.22 192.168.175.136 SIP/SDP 1466 Status:
>>>>>> 200 OK, with session description
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Status-Code: 200
>>>>>> [resent packet : True]
>>>>>> [Suspected resend of frame:104]
>>>>>> [Request Frame : 57]
>>>>>> [Response Time (ms): 10950]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> followed by this one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 110 19.598495 192.168.175.136 192.168.0.1 SIP 714 Request: ACK
>>>>>> sip:[email protected]:5060;transport=tcp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Request-Line: ACK sip:[email protected]:5060;transport=tcp SIP/2.0
>>>>>> Method: ACK
>>>>>> Request-URI: sip:[email protected]:5060;transport=tcp
>>>>>> [Resent Packet: False]
>>>>>> [Request Frame: 105]
>>>>>> [Response Time (ms): 512]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All those test have been done on Wireshark on the Computer with the
>>>>>> Softphone on it. And the 192.168.0.253 that you see is the hardphone IP
>>>>>> adresse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/4/19 Gerald Drouillard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 4/19/2012 3:25 PM, Simon Brûlé wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can I do a capture with wireshark on the SipXecs server?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you google a little you will find it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  About the ALG you think that the other Router that give the DHCP
>>>>>>> to my Laptop and the Wan adresse of my router would have the Sip ALG
>>>>>>> activate?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be the only thing inbetween your softphone and the sipx
>>>>>>> server... right?
>>>>>>> http://screenshots.portforward.com/Cisco/Linksys_E2500/Management.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/4/19 Gerald Drouillard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 4/19/2012 2:58 PM, Simon Brûlé wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I added 192.168.175.0/24 to the intranet subnet and I still have
>>>>>>>> the same problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/4/19 Gerald Drouillard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 4/19/2012 2:37 PM, Simon Brûlé wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, I know I already posted something very similiar to this
>>>>>>>>> problem but I haven't found a solution to it so here i am reposting my
>>>>>>>>> problem but with more precision this time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I have a softphone (Jitis) on a Ubuntu 11.10 installation
>>>>>>>>> connected to the network of the company.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I have a router Linksys E2500 connected to the same network. The
>>>>>>>>> laptop have the adresse 192.168.175.136 giving by dhcp and the router 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> the adresse 192.168.175.22 giving by dhcp too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On that router I have my SipXecs server and 2 hardphones
>>>>>>>>> connected. My SipXecs server have the adresse 192.168.0.1, the 
>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>> adresse of the router is 192.168.0.2 and the 2 hardphones have dhcp 
>>>>>>>>> adresse
>>>>>>>>> given by the SipXecs server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  The problem is the following :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  When I call with the softphone that is registered on the SipXecs
>>>>>>>>> server to a hardphone that is registered on the server too the call 
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> there but there is no sound on either side and the hardphone is still
>>>>>>>>> flashing like the call is still coming and i didn't answer it. By the 
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> the phone is a Polycom 321.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  When i call from the Hardphone to the softphone everything is
>>>>>>>>> fine except that the softphone can't do any sound but he can hear the
>>>>>>>>> hardphone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  The firewall on the SipXecs server is disabled, the firewall on
>>>>>>>>> the router is disabled too, the SipXecs server is in the DMZ of the 
>>>>>>>>> router,
>>>>>>>>> Sip ALG is disabled on the router too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On the SipXecs server System --> Internet calling  I have the
>>>>>>>>> Nat traversal enabled and the Server behind nat. The intranet domain 
>>>>>>>>> is the
>>>>>>>>> default one and for the intranet i put the 192.168.0.0/24.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  You may need to add 192.168.175.0/24 also if it is local.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I have seen polycom phones act like this before.  In my case:
>>>>>>>> The user portion of a SIP dialog MUST match the ACK and if it does
>>>>>>>> not match exactly the phone will ignore it. Without a valid ACK the 
>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>> won’t start sending RTP and the UI won’t show the call as answered.  
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>> may want to do a capture on the sipx server and look at the results 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> wireshark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds like you may still have ALG at the gateway on the
>>>>>>>> 192.168.175.0 network.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Gerald Drouillard
>>>>>>>> Technology Architect
>>>>>>>> Drouillard & Associates, Inc.http://www.Drouillard.biz
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> Technology Architect
>>>>>>> Drouillard & Associates, Inc.http://www.Drouillard.biz
>>>>>>>
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