Aging Boomers, Health Reform and the End of Sex

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'Counter Culture' Author Dubs New 'Elder Culture'

Paul Kleyman
Sep 14, 2009

Editor's Note: In 1969, Theodore Roszak helped define the boomer 
generation with his groundbreaking book, "The Making of a Counter 
Culture." Now, four decades later, the 75-year-old social historian 
sees Woodstock Nation coming full circle in his 20th book, "The 
Making of an Elder Culture" (New Society Publishers, 2009). As the 
boomers -- 78 million-strong -- march past age 60, says Roszak, they 
bear the heirloom seeds of "what I call the counter culture, the 
willingness to question rather deeply the cultural standards of the society."

NAM editor Paul Kleyman interviewed Roszak at his home in Berkeley, 
Calif. Roszak described growing up Catholic in an insular white 
neighborhood of Chicago and how his students awakened him in the 
1960s to new ways of seeing the world. He examined such topics as 
multiculturalism, the coming caregiver rebellion by boomer women, and 
what he means by "the end of sex."
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        It's been a decade since you published 'America the Wise' and its 
paperback edition, 'Longevity Revolution.' Why did you decide to 
revisit the issues of our aging society?

The book is almost an appeal to the boomer generation to wake up to 
the power that it possesses and the responsibility that comes with 
that power. This is the generation that established the cult of 
youth. But they're going to be older for a much longer time than they 
were ever young.

The question this book asks is: How will aging change the American 
population, especially the generation of the '60s, which is 
overwhelmed with associations of youth and activism?

        What's different about the way boomers will experience old age?

Every generation has its own characteristics, depending on what it 
lived through. One characteristic of the boomers is that as young 
people, they were willing to flirt with divergent ideas. That's what 
I call the counterculture, the willingness to question rather deeply 
the cultural standards of society.

That's something that went beyond politics. But what about issues 
such as what a family should be like? What are you living for, more 
and more money and acquisition? What should a good education be like? 
What should the relations of men and women be like? That's probably 
what made them most annoying, raising issues about very deep social 
mores, customs, traditions.

This generation also had the experience of multiculturalism, which 
was very rarely part of the politics of the past, the idea of opening 
up society to as much cultural diversity as possible. That became a 
value, and a very controversial one.

        You mention multiculturalism, but not all boomers were part of 
Woodstock Nation. How do you see the racial divide playing out in 
terms of America's increasingly diverse older population?

What's the phrase now? We're going to have a 'minority-majority.' I 
grew up in a working poor family in Chicago. You just didn't see 
different kinds of people. The only black people you saw were if you 
went downtown, they carried your luggage at the railway station. 
There was little diversity in most Chicago neighborhoods. In fact, 
the boundaries were often guarded by violence.

So, for me, it's really remarkable to see how this society has opened 
up to cultural diversity. Things that were once considered 
explosively controversial ­ like jazz, music that was not Bing Crosby 
­ are now taken for granted. I think the boomer generation introduced that.

I remember when students protested that, 'What we're reading are 40 
great books by 40 great white guys.' I had to admit, that's true. 
These are called 'the classics.' What they wanted were a lot of 
different views of life -- Native American, African American, more 
gender diversity and more women represented in the curriculum. I was 
a young instructor at the time, and I found that exciting.

        How do you see the racial divide playing out in our aging America?

This is one of the things that makes the health care issue so very 
important. You don't want just a lot of older people; you want a lot 
of older healthy people. If the health care system isn't reaching 
elements of the population because of money, that's got to change. 
Demographic ideas of the 1950s that as long as you've got a bunch of 
healthy, white middle-class families, you're okay are not going to 
work anymore. You've got to spread health around. That's one of the 
reasons I'm hoping President Obama's going to come through with 
something that may stick in the craw of the conservatives, which the 
nation needs desperately.

        Will America be able to afford it?

It's been striking to me that the first thing you always hear when 
you bring up even modest health care reform is, 'How can we afford that?'

One of the major insights of the boomer generation, back when they 
were young, was from all the writing by people who said, 'This is a 
very rich society. Therefore, we should be able to provide a 
guaranteed annual income for everybody.' If you go back, you'll find 
even archconservatives like [University of Chicago economist] Milton 
Friedman saying, 'Why have all these social programs? Why don't we 
just mail people money, a negative income tax? If you didn't make 
enough money to come up to a certain level, the IRS will send you a 
check.' There was no question in his mind that we were rich enough to 
afford these things.

One of the things that has been subject to social amnesia since about 
the 1970s is how basically rich this society is. I think there's been 
a deliberate attempt by corporate and conservative elements to bury 
that fact, so that people will think we're poor, we can't afford 
anything, we can't afford music programs in the schools. We can't 
afford schools. We're very, very poor. This is not true; industrial 
societies are very, very rich. And they can afford a certain level of 
basic necessity, which should be available to everybody ­ as a matter 
of right.

        What about the recession?

You know, this whole economic crisis is a kind of perverse measure of 
how rich we are. It's been filled with abuse and scamming and 
banditry. What we're going through is not like the sort of economic 
crisis people in Somalia might go through. They are authentically poor.

One of my appeals in the book is that boomers should revive that 
discussion, when we thought we could provide a decent standard of 
living and health for everybody.

        Part of health care reform not being discussed is the lack of 
long-term care and help for family caregivers. Will that remain on 
the back burner as a major expense families will just have to 
continue bearing themselves?

One thing I think is going to have to change is our perception of 
caregiving along the entire spectrum, from terminally ill people to 
reasonably healthy elders, who are frail and need assisted living. 
Instead of regarding this as a liability, I think we should see this 
as one of the frontiers of employment and investment.

In the future, our economy is going to be a health care economy. 
Instead of treating those services as something menial, we should 
treat them as something respectful and professional, so that it will 
be well done and be well paid for. We tend to think of a lot of 
nursing assistants as very low level. But that's got to change, and I 
think it will as more demand for that kind of help emerges.

        Emerge how?

We're going to see in the next 10 years a rebellion on the part of 
women in their 50s, who are getting stuck with eldercare for no 
money. They have to cut off their careers and stop being what they 
wanted to be to stay home and become caregivers. And it's very hard 
to be a caregiver these days; it's not like Victorian times, when 
you'd make a cup of tea for Grandmother and put her by the fire. Now 
you've got to have a lot of medical skills to do effective eldercare.

At some point, we're going to get a rebellion that says, 'Look, our 
parents deserve better than what we can give them at home as 
amateurs.' There's going to be a big push for spending a lot of money 
on long-term care.

Long-term care is like a ticking time bomb. An awful lot of American 
families are being asked, in effect, to carry the full burden of 
longevity. And that's not fair.

        Aging boomers are often depicted as holding onto the sex, drugs and 
rock-and-roll of their youth. How do you see elders evolving?

There's a chapter in the book called 'The End of Sex,' where I use 
'end,' not as a finish, but as an objective, the goal. I think we're 
going to see relationships shift markedly, radically, among couples, 
as aging begins to become more characteristic of our lives. Loyalty 
and caring are going to become the more dominant theme of 
relationships. As nature runs its course, couples will begin to 
realize that there comes a time when the physical condition of your 
spouse becomes a dominant theme in your life, and your condition 
becomes a dominant theme in your spouse's life.

        What about drugs?

In the book what I suggest is that the most effective way of 
transforming consciousness dramatically and significantly in an 
enduring way is organically, without any chemical additives. Nothing 
changes consciousness more than aging.

Consciousness transformation was such a dominant theme of the 
counterculture of the '60s. In an elder culture, though, it's going 
to become the transformation of simply maturing, getting older and 
seeing life from a very different perspective. It makes a lot of 
difference, if you think you have 50 years ahead of you or 10 years 
ahead in life.

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