On 13 Jul 2008, at 1:17 AM, Christopher Reeve wrote:
Thanks Christiaan,
I just hadn't realised how to keep the highlight option always on.
As a new user you must appreciate that it was not obvious why I
couldn't turn on the highlighter by pressing the button in the "Add
Note" menu.
I don't know about Preview - I don't use it, but I don't think Skim
is quite as click efficient as it could be. However all it would
take is slight better customisation of the tool bar and short cuts
to suit the users habits.
I doubt this. There are many considerations and many user needs that
go into that.
- Tool bar
If I could customise the tool bar so that "Tool Mode" buttons
included all of the drop down options that select the "Note Type", I
would do this. Then until I found a special use for it I'd simply
remove the "Add Note" buttons from the tool bar.
You may have noticed that the tool mode button is already rather big.
This would make it unusably big.
- Customisable short cuts (maybe possible somewhere?)
The short cuts I would change so that ones I use frequently are easy
to type. Commnand-ctrl-6 is not very easy. Maybe I don't have very
long fingers?
Menu item actions can be customized in the system preferences or using
third party tools. We certainly won't introduce customization in
Skim. You must appreciate that there are a very limited amount of
shortcuts available, and Skim already uses a lot of them. being
consistent is very important, and shortcuts are not independent.
This would enable me to quickly jump from highlighting mode to
underlining mode - which at the moment are the only two modes I use.
I underline headings and highlight paragraph text.
Chris.
There are some 1-letter shortcuts to switch between different note
tool modes. The Wiki has a list of all (non standard) available
shortcuts that are not listed in the menu.
Christiaan
I just hadn't figured out the difference between the "Tool Mode" and
the "Add Note" buttons.
All I wanted to be able to do was change between being in underline
mode and highlight mode at one click
What I would now change is to allow the tool bar to be modified
that . can be access in one click. Then I'd simply do away with the
"Add Note" buttons.
I jump between using the highlighter and underliner. I underline
headings I am interesting in and highlight paragraph text. If I was
able to customise the tool bar as I suggest I can change mode in one
click.
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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:59:18 +0200
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] apply last action with middle mouse
button - keeps your left hand free for coffee drinking
On 12 Jul 2008, at 10:14 PM, Christopher Reeve wrote:
Perhaps a better idea would be to open up the restriction Skim makes
that you have to select text before you can highlight it, underline
it or strike through it. It took me a little while to figure out
that Skim require you to make the selection first - clearly this is
not intuitive.
Enable the user to select a highlighter and then select text with it
and on the release of the mouse the text is highlighted. Is this not
more standard?
That's basically the way Preview behaves. Personally, I think it is
much less intuitive. Moreover, it takes about twice as many actions
in general to add a note or highlight with this behavior. So in the
long run Skim's behavior is much more efficient. Also I would say
that the connection between a highlight and a text selection should
be pretty obvious.
Another grumble: If I want to, for example, spell check someone's
paper it is far easier to write the correction above the text - just
like I would do by hand. I don't like the yellow Text Tool boxes
much, which you have to move and resize into the margins so that it
does not cover the main text. Too fiddly. Again, Jarnal performs
better here. I think Skim is missing a similar text tool.
Chris.
There has gone a lot of thought into selection, and we've tried to
make it as intuitive and efficient as possible. You can never have
everything. Every choice has a downside to it. Also note that you
can get the note at a different place by not selecting text, in
which case it will be added at the current mouse position.
Moreover, you can get into a note tool mode and add notes directly
by selecting a region or selecting text (depending on the type).
Compare this to preview, where you basically do the same, but unlike
Skim you essentially have to select the note tool mode for every
single note or highlight you have to add. Skim offers you two ways
of adding notes, you just choose the one that fits you best at any
moment.
Christiaan
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To: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:10:48 +0200
Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] apply last action with middle mouse
button - keeps your left hand free for coffee drinking
I'd say that would me more a function for the OS than an individual
program. I wouldn't even know how to do that. And generally it is a
bad idea to do non-standard things, and this is extremely non-
standard behavior.
Christiaan
On 12 Jul 2008, at 6:36 PM, Christopher Reeve wrote:
Hi,
I'm new to Skim, but already love it.
One feature I think would be very helpful:
To push last called macro/function on a middle mouse click.
eg. If you are going through a document highlighting text, on the
first occurrence you would select the text to be highlighted and
then highlight the text with either clicking the highlight button or
using the short cut.
After this if you want to highlight some text simply select it
and then click the middle mouse button.
This would make repetitive jobs like highlighting a breeze! - With
left hand taken up by your mug of coffee your right hand does not
have to dart back and forth from the tool bar to the text - spilling
your precious coffee.
Chris.
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