On 2009-05-12, at 2:21 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

>
> On 12 May 2009, at 7:33 PM, Alex Montgomery wrote:
> [snip]

>> 2)when the file is double-clicked in Spotlight, Skim opens up the PDF
>> and searches the *PDF text* for the Spotlight search term, not the
>> *Annotations* for the search term, whereas the intended behavior  
>> would
>> be to search in the domain that the text was discovered (in this  
>> case,
>> the annotations). Can this be fixed, or is this impossible to do?
>
> It is simply not known whether Spotlight matched information from the
> PDF or the notes. So what's the 'intended' behavior is simply not know
> (if Skim would use the Notes search field instead, you'd complain when
> you used spotlight to find some text in the PDF, wouldn't you?) So
> neither approach would be 100% right, but the current behavior would
> have the largest chance to get it right.

Well, that's true if a .pdfd is clicked, since Spotlight would in that  
case be searching both the .pdf and .skim files. But if a .skim file  
comes up with a hit in the Finder, then Spotlight has matched  
information from the notes, not the PDF, so wouldn't it make sense if  
Spotlight passes a .skim file and a search term to Skim to have it  
search the Notes field instead of the PDF?

Thanks,
-AHM

>
>> Last, is there any application other than BibDesk (well, and
>> Spotlight) that allows for searching of Skim notes content? I note
>> that EagleFiler and DevonThink have some rudimentary support, but
>> neither seems to search the content of the notes.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -AHM
>
> I use neither, but I've certainly read that EagleFiler uses their own
> importers for searching PDF, which includes Skim Notes.
>
> Christiaan
>
>> On 2009-05-12, at 10:19 AM, Bill Mohler wrote:
>>
>>> I think, from my experience, that Christiann's suggestion of adding
>>> text-tags (e.g. [xyz] ) to the text of the note is the best  
>>> approach.
>>> You can add them to highlight and other "quoting" notes as well as
>>> your own notes.
>>>
>>>> On 12 May 2009, at 6:54 PM, Alex Montgomery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks-
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been thinking about and discussing with some of my colleagues
>>>>> different workflows that involve Skim and/or BibDesk. One of them
>>>>> asked if annotations could be tagged or have any other type of
>>>>> metadata associated with them; for example, if one is going  
>>>>> through
>>>>> documents looking for quotes from a particular person, each quote
>>>>> could be highlighted and tagged. Then a file (or multiple files,  
>>>>> if
>>>>> doing this from BibDesk) could be searched for that particular tag
>>>>> separate from the content of the actual highlighting.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, there's no support for annotation tags possible. See the  
>>>> various
>>>> closed RFEs.
>>>>
>>>>> It occurred to me that there is already some metadata associated
>>>>> with
>>>>> annotations (color, line width, etc.), so this might be an easily
>>>>> extensible property of skim notes. Or it might be a pain to
>>>>> implement,
>>>>> or impossible, or not worth it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Impossible, as we won't diverge any more from the PDF specs.
>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts? Are there suggestions for ways this could be done within
>>>>> the
>>>>> existing program that I'm entirely unaware of?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -AHM
>>>>
>>>> No, unless you count adding some text to the text associated to a
>>>> note
>>>> and using the search field.
>>>>
>>>> Christiaan
>>>>


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