Actually my research into Hagrid appears to indicate that it performs the
functions of HKP and WKS/WKD. The lack of ability to syncrohnize

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 3:52 PM Andrew Gallagher <andr...@andrewg.com>
wrote:

> On 22/06/2021 19:28, Kiss Gabor (Bitman) wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jun 2021, Todd Fleisher wrote:
> >
> >> This service is deprecated. This means it is no longer maintained, and
> new HKPS certificates will not be issued. Service reliability should not
> be expected.
> >>
> >> Update 2021-06-21: Due to even more GDPR takedown requests, the DNS
> records for the pool will no longer be provided at all.
> >
> > Do we establish an other pool with the remaining cca 30 hardcore server?
> > Same members, same data, same software. New domain.
>
> I think the idea of a self-organising pool has fundamental flaws. A
> service that arbitrarily redirects your request to a desktop in some
> random bedroom (or worse!) is not tenable IMO. I would much prefer if
> individual operators were responsible for maintaining the availability
> of their own service, and users chose between them based on their own
> preference.
>
> Also, any pool running SKS (the software) would suffer from all the same
> reliability and compliance issues that led to the old one being shut
> down. I believe we should declare both the SKS codebase and the pool (as
> a concept) dead at this point.
>
> Currently there seem to be three options for SKS operators who wish to
> keep running:
>
> Hockeypuck is maintained and in use by a group of about a dozen nodes
> that have been synchronising with the SKS network for some time. It is
> more reliable than SKS, and has blacklisting configuration parameters
> that allow for easier compliance with GDPR. It does not yet solve all
> known abuse and privacy issues, so remains a work in progress.
>
> Hagrid is mature and reliable, but a) it does not synchronise with
> anything, and b) it does not serve third-party signatures.
>
> The last option is WKS/WKD, which favours a corporate environment. The
> tooling and UX on the publication side is immature, but for key lookup,
> on sufficiently modern clients, it Just Works. The disadvantages are a)
> it only serves keys whose emails are in its own domain, and b) it does
> not synchronise with anything by default (but this can be scripted).
>
> I believe a mixture of WKS and synchronising keyservers will be required
> for the foreseeable future. I would encourage SKS operators to migrate
> to Hockeypuck and help contribute to its development, so that we can
> start to address some of the design issues in recon, without having to
> worry any more about backwards compatibility with SKS. :-)
>
> --
> Andrew Gallagher
>
>

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