I tend to shy away from the idea of specialized just-for-the-blind interfaces. I would much rather the Skype people worked on making the existing interface accessible. It's all for the same reason that I do not like the special versions of Web pages.
Bruce -- Bruce Toews Proud JAWS User Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: bruce at ogts.net LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sat, 22 Nov 2008, Gordan Radic wrote: > Hi! > I'm no expert in this but I believe that lot of things in Skype would be much > more accessible if the Skype developers include non graphical user interface > like developers of NOD32 are doing. There will be non graphical interface in > NOD 4 (again). When you have, let's call it, classic windows with simple or > none graphic objects it's easier to inplement accessibility in it. Skype > developers could include a choice during installation or in Options when you > can choose prefered interface. This "no skin" things work just fine with many > programs in interraction with screen readers even when there are no scripts > available. > > > S postovanjem > > Gordan Radic > ______________________ > MSN: zarakijel at gmail.com > http://zarakijel.4shared.com > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> > To: "a list for discussing skype and its use with screen access software." > <skypeenglish at emissives.com>; <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>; <nfbcs at > nfbnet.org> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:51 AM > Subject: [Skypeenglish] Appeal for info on other screen readers > > >> Warning to SkypeEnglish: This is a pretty technical message. Author >> not responsible for eye glazing. <silly grin> >> >> For various reasons, including some ideas brewed during this week's >> visit I made to Skype headquarters in Tallinn, I have a few >> questions for users of screen readers other than JAWS (I think I know >> JAWS well enough to answer these questions for that one :-) ). >> >> Screen readers of interest: Window-Eyes, SAToGo, Hal, NVDA, and any >> others currently in use for Windows. >> >> Questions: >> >> 1. Can the reader be made to present a virtual view of a window that >> supports MSAA, and if so, are there special requirements for any MSAA >> roles? For example, what makes something get called a "link" if not >> just the role of Role_System_Link? >> >> 2. What are the requirements for making an HTML control appear in a >> virtual view. For example, JAWS can handle IE HTML controls, and I >> assume any other HTML control that (1) answers >> WM_GetObject/ObjID_NativeOM with a standards-compliant Document Object >> Model (DOM) root node, and possibly (2) provides reasonable MSAA >> information. >> >> 3. Same question for RichEdit-style controls: Can they be >> virtualized and, if so, any special needs or restrictions? I'm >> particularly interested here in support for subobjects such as >> buttons. (I know RichEdits can have embedded objects, but I don't yet >> know what kinds.) >> >> Users of Skype 4 Beta will undoubtedly have noticed that Skype 4 >> currently boasts some rather unusual "list items" in conversations >> (formerly called "chats"), such as file transfers with Save and Cancel >> buttons, voicemails with Play buttons, etc. I am trying to determine >> what to recommend as a way to grant us full access to these structures >> without a lot of work, for them or for us. >> >> But this set of questions is also aimed at providing a general idea of >> what is now possible from our side. JAWS allows me to tell it to >> virtualize windows of a certain class, though there are restrictions >> on how well that can work depending on what MSAA the window offers. >> JAWS can also virtualize HTML and RichEdit windows. I'm looking for a >> solution that isn't based on just one screen reader though. >> >> Thanks for any info. >> >> >> -- >> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >> "All these years, the people said, 'He's acting like a kid.' >> He did not know he could not fly, so he did." >> --Guy Clark, "The Cape" (Dublin Blues) >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >
