I am working solely on the WebDav client-side, so I am happy to extrapolate
it out of the existing Slide project as suggested by James and make it
shinier, etc.
Has anyone actually _ever_ had any response from a developer on the project
that they can get in touch with to let them know our plans?
I suggest James be the chief-coordinator of our new project "Slide
Resurrection" (call it whatever you like!) and Eelco be deputy. I think
some centralised co-ordination is essential.
What do you think?
Thanks,
Portia
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I've experienced the same thing.. Actually, I want to put together a
proposed architecture change and either get commit access or just branch
and be a rebel ;) Here is what I'd like to see:
1) break the webdav client out into a separate project - it should
belong in commons, not in Slide
2) break the current slide codebase into 2 areas:
a) Content server - a kernel that is capable of doing versioned,
workflow oriented content management and could be the core of any CMS
system
b) Content API - access to the content kernel via a number of
gateways, including (but not limited to): EJB, JMX, WebDAV/DeltaV
3) Create a basic CMS system on top of the framework to prove that:
a) it can be done and
b) How to use the system
4) Enhance the docs to provide better information from the perspective
of:
a) Extending the kernel (stores, interceptors, etc)
b) Writing to the framework using any of the gateways
c) Using/extending the example CMS system
I originally started using Slide to build a CMS for my church, and have
found now that although nothing better exists out there in the OSS
world, this isn't as easy as I thought it would be - mostly due to the
lack of support and poor code. For example, I want to lock a resource,
but to do that I have to copy/paste the logic from the LockMethod.java
that services webdav requests with 5 or 6 lock calls. Why not have a
LockCommand.java that is called from any gateway, whether its from the
webdav servlet (aka the LockMethod class) or from my own Struts
application (or for that matter, even a JMX client within JBoss)? I've
also seen some postings of those trying to get the J2EE store to operate
properly within a UserTransaction and many failures resulting of that,
so some work on the stores themselves would be required.
Now, I've actually considered backing off and just writing some
OJB->MySQL code to do what I need, but knowing that the bazaar approach
is always "start from something that works and add to it", I'd rather
gain the knowledge of what the Slide authors gained while writing it
than stumbling over the same problems again - even if I don't use the
webdav gateway at all.
Thoughts?
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Parker, Steve L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:16 AM
> To: 'Slide Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: newbie question about slide future
>
>
> I have experienced similar problems with getting any help or
> guidance.. I could get basically no response from anyone.
>
> The resulting effect on a potential user is that one becomes
> very unsure whether it is a safe bet to use this thing. One
> simple (or not so simple) thing to do would be to have a more
> understandable and comprehensive documentation. There are
> several different ways of using Slide. For instance, use the
> WebDav Servlet, or just use the lower level API..
>
> Are there any parties out there interested in joining/helping
> out in Slide?
>
> Are the developers/committers out there?? How can we help out?
>
> Slide seems like solid code, but it is not at all presented
> well.. We are using it on a pretty big project, and would
> definitely love to help out!
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Kuhnash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:54 AM
> To: Slide Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: newbie question about slide future
>
>
> Not only that but it would appear that the current
> maintainers/developers do not do much to support the current
> questions
> on the list.
>
> This is probably the most neglected Apache Jakarta project
> and it should
> be released and replaced with some other Apache license compatible
> WebDav system, in my opinion.
>
>
> Nikos Vitalis wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >i am new to slide and noticed that the last stable version
> (1.0.16) was
> >released almost 1.5 years ago. Why did it took so long? Is a further
> >release planned?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >
>
>
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