I would definitely be +1 for moving to a ORM tool. There is *soo* much
maintenance with all these different dbs. As Hibernate is no option
*right now*, and I have zero experience with OJB I had a lookt at
ibatis. It's nice, but it is an SQL mapper only and can not help us
with different dbs :(

Would be great if you could do a start with OJB. Maybe others will
chime in as soon as the initial pain of getting it started is over.

Oliver

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:15:28 +0900, Carlos Villegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I have experience with OJB but not the time :-(
> I had promissed to look at the issues about the property-value field for
> storing lists like the revisions or group members. Maybe I can do it as
> part of that but I'm still trying to make the time...
> OJB will do just fine for Slide purposes and it's simple enough. The
> Java code for OJB is very readable, more than the embedded SQL in raw
> JDBC which adds to the maintainability.
> 
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> James Mason wrote:
> > This is sort of on my todo list, but the only O/R tool I'm familiar with
> > is Hibernate and for licensing reasons we can't integrate that with
> > Slide (this may change in the future). I looked at OJB, but I wasn't
> > impressed with some of the hoops I would have to jump through to
> > accomplish, for example, lazy instantiation.
> >
> > I think this is the right way to go, if someone with the time and
> > knowledge is willing to chip in. Right now I don't really have
> > either :).
> >
> > -James
> >
> > On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 09:18 +0900, Carlos Villegas wrote:
> >
> >>This is simple enough. But how about using one of the O/R mapping tools
> >>like Hibernate, Apache's OJB or Torque. The table names or mappings are
> >>usually setup in an external configuraton file. It adds additional
> >>benefits like supporting more databases and keeping all the database
> >>adapters in sync since they all become just one. Converting JDBC code to
> >>OJB, for example, is straightforward, we have done it, specially if
> >>there are no stored procedures like in Slide.
> >>
> >>Carlos
> >>
> >>Warwick Burrows wrote:
> >>
> >>>There's something about preprocessing Java source that makes me a little
> >>>uneasy :-) Isn't there another way? eg. instead of inserting a placeholder
> >>>that gets replaced simply change the jdbc operation strings passed to the
> >>>jdbc client as in this example?
> >>>
> >>>     "select name from " + Config.table_prefix + "PROPERTIES where
> >>>field=1"
> >>>
> >>>Java will insert the prefix into the command automatically. There's no need
> >>>for preprocessing and the amount of work required to change the code to 
> >>>suit
> >>>this approach is no more or less than that needed to insert a placeholder
> >>>string?
> >>>
> >>>Warwick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Richard Emberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:51 PM
> >>>>To: Slide Users Mailing List
> >>>>Subject: developers: table prefix
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>This subject has been kicked around recently. Basically,
> >>>>there is an easy way to do it but if none of the Slide
> >>>>developers are interested then it will never go anywhere.
> >>>>
> >>>>How to add table prefixes to Slide's database table names -
> >>>>the simple way:
> >>>>
> >>>>Alter the build.xml file so that it does a filtered copy to a
> >>>>new directory "build/gen_src" prior to compilation.
> >>>> It is from this directory that the
> >>>>sources are then compiled. Each table name in the source has
> >>>>the string "@TABLE_PREFIX@" prepened to it. The
> >>>>build.properties file has a new property:
> >>>>
> >>>>table.prefix=<value>
> >>>>
> >>>>The "value" can be, for example, empty resulting in the
> >>>>current table names or one might set the value to "SLIDE_"
> >>>>which would result in that string being prepended to all table names.
> >>>>
> >>>>Additional benefits:
> >>>>
> >>>>One can now add properties to the build.properties file:
> >>>>
> >>>>version.major=2
> >>>>version.minor=1
> >>>>version.release=0
> >>>>
> >>>>which could be used during the filtered copy to embed the
> >>>>Slide version number is some class which can be accessed at runtime.
> >>>>
> >>>>The build date, who built the code, compile host
> >>>>architecture, java version and vender doing compilation, cvs
> >>>>version tag, etc. can also be generated by ant and used
> >>>>during the filtered copy to add more runtime accessible
> >>>>information. For those embedding Slide in a J2EE application,
> >>>>this information would then be accessible via a JMX page.
> >>>>
> >>>>None of this is hard to do, its just a question of
> >>>>identifying someone (with checkin ability) to take the first
> >>>>step - altering the build process.
> >>>>
> >>>>Richard
> 
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