Has anyone got any idea what role Spring would play in all this???

Oliver


On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:57:42 +0100, Oliver Zeigermann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some sort of very short pratcial OJB introduction at :
> 
> http://blogs.codepuccino.com/dude/index.php?p=23
> 
> Oliver
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:24:35 +0100, Oliver Zeigermann
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would definitely be +1 for moving to a ORM tool. There is *soo* much
> > maintenance with all these different dbs. As Hibernate is no option
> > *right now*, and I have zero experience with OJB I had a lookt at
> > ibatis. It's nice, but it is an SQL mapper only and can not help us
> > with different dbs :(
> >
> > Would be great if you could do a start with OJB. Maybe others will
> > chime in as soon as the initial pain of getting it started is over.
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:15:28 +0900, Carlos Villegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > Well I have experience with OJB but not the time :-(
> > > I had promissed to look at the issues about the property-value field for
> > > storing lists like the revisions or group members. Maybe I can do it as
> > > part of that but I'm still trying to make the time...
> > > OJB will do just fine for Slide purposes and it's simple enough. The
> > > Java code for OJB is very readable, more than the embedded SQL in raw
> > > JDBC which adds to the maintainability.
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > James Mason wrote:
> > > > This is sort of on my todo list, but the only O/R tool I'm familiar with
> > > > is Hibernate and for licensing reasons we can't integrate that with
> > > > Slide (this may change in the future). I looked at OJB, but I wasn't
> > > > impressed with some of the hoops I would have to jump through to
> > > > accomplish, for example, lazy instantiation.
> > > >
> > > > I think this is the right way to go, if someone with the time and
> > > > knowledge is willing to chip in. Right now I don't really have
> > > > either :).
> > > >
> > > > -James
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 09:18 +0900, Carlos Villegas wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>This is simple enough. But how about using one of the O/R mapping tools
> > > >>like Hibernate, Apache's OJB or Torque. The table names or mappings are
> > > >>usually setup in an external configuraton file. It adds additional
> > > >>benefits like supporting more databases and keeping all the database
> > > >>adapters in sync since they all become just one. Converting JDBC code to
> > > >>OJB, for example, is straightforward, we have done it, specially if
> > > >>there are no stored procedures like in Slide.
> > > >>
> > > >>Carlos
> > > >>
> > > >>Warwick Burrows wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>There's something about preprocessing Java source that makes me a 
> > > >>>little
> > > >>>uneasy :-) Isn't there another way? eg. instead of inserting a 
> > > >>>placeholder
> > > >>>that gets replaced simply change the jdbc operation strings passed to 
> > > >>>the
> > > >>>jdbc client as in this example?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>     "select name from " + Config.table_prefix + "PROPERTIES where
> > > >>>field=1"
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Java will insert the prefix into the command automatically. There's no 
> > > >>>need
> > > >>>for preprocessing and the amount of work required to change the code 
> > > >>>to suit
> > > >>>this approach is no more or less than that needed to insert a 
> > > >>>placeholder
> > > >>>string?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Warwick
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>From: Richard Emberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:51 PM
> > > >>>>To: Slide Users Mailing List
> > > >>>>Subject: developers: table prefix
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>This subject has been kicked around recently. Basically,
> > > >>>>there is an easy way to do it but if none of the Slide
> > > >>>>developers are interested then it will never go anywhere.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>How to add table prefixes to Slide's database table names -
> > > >>>>the simple way:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Alter the build.xml file so that it does a filtered copy to a
> > > >>>>new directory "build/gen_src" prior to compilation.
> > > >>>> It is from this directory that the
> > > >>>>sources are then compiled. Each table name in the source has
> > > >>>>the string "@TABLE_PREFIX@" prepened to it. The
> > > >>>>build.properties file has a new property:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>table.prefix=<value>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>The "value" can be, for example, empty resulting in the
> > > >>>>current table names or one might set the value to "SLIDE_"
> > > >>>>which would result in that string being prepended to all table names.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Additional benefits:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>One can now add properties to the build.properties file:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>version.major=2
> > > >>>>version.minor=1
> > > >>>>version.release=0
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>which could be used during the filtered copy to embed the
> > > >>>>Slide version number is some class which can be accessed at runtime.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>The build date, who built the code, compile host
> > > >>>>architecture, java version and vender doing compilation, cvs
> > > >>>>version tag, etc. can also be generated by ant and used
> > > >>>>during the filtered copy to add more runtime accessible
> > > >>>>information. For those embedding Slide in a J2EE application,
> > > >>>>this information would then be accessible via a JMX page.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>None of this is hard to do, its just a question of
> > > >>>>identifying someone (with checkin ability) to take the first
> > > >>>>step - altering the build process.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Richard
> > >
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