DaZZa wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Rick Welykochy wrote:
> 
> > > This one is a pearler!
> >
> > Well well. We Linux advocados have a lot of catching
> > up to do.
> 
> Any bets on where the statistics were taken from? Redmond, maybe?

I had a (very) quick look into that... the stats are from WebSideStory's
'HitBox technology' (as is stated on DaZZa's original post). According
to their home page, hundreds of thousands of sites are using HitBox:

(from http://websidestory.com/)
"StatMarket.com: The Most Accurate Source of Global Internet User Trends

StatMarket.com is the most accurate source of data on global Internet
user trends. The statistics at StatMarket.com are culled from the
collective surfing behavior of more than 40 million daily unique
visitors to
hundreds of thousands of sites using WebSideStory's HitBox Web
audience analysis technology. Statistics provided include Web browser
version, operating system version, screen resolutions, top ISPs, top
search engines, major domains, foreign domains and much more.
StatMarket.com's massive sample size makes it the recognized
authority on Internet usage statistics."

(apologies if that is badly formatted for some of you...)

I'm not a statistician (INAS), but hundreds of thousands seems small and
perhaps even biased when you consider:
- Netcraft currently surveys 15,049,382 sites
- HitBox stats are limited to sites that choose to pay for the privilige
of using it. Anyone care to guess how many alternative operating system
related sites would be doing this?

Then again, 1 or 2% might be plenty for a reasonable survey. The
criteria for being a part of it are still suspect though.

I failed to find any sort of link between WebSideStory and Microsoft. I
didn't look real hard though.

> 
> > BTW: Since when is 86% "everyone"?
> > ALSO: Not all "others" use Netscape.
> 
> There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. As always.

IMO the *number* of users of Netscape probably hasn't changed much. It
just doesn't get a look-in with new users, being bundled with Windows
and also being included 99% of the time on ISP's setup CD's.

I'm with Penrith^H^H^H^H^H^H^HPacific Netcom for internet access at
home. I remember a time when netscape came on their (windows) setup CD.
Now you can't get anything from them but IE. Not only that, but some of
the pages on their site don't work too well with Netscape. It took them
about 6 months to fix a Y2K Netscape javascript problem where the year
would display as '100', and their stupid javascript pop-up windows on
the members page are missing a bloody </TABLE> tag in the HTML, so they
come up blank on Netscape.

> 
> > Let's issue a new press release:
> >
> > MILLIONS USING NON-MICROSOFT PRODUCTS
> > Simple stats gathering shows that of the gazillions of
> > PC's deployed worldwide, literally millions of them
> > are using non-Microsoft operating systems and products,
> > such a Linux and Netscape. Linux continues to dominate
> > the O/S market in both the 'uptime' and 'reliability'
> > sweepstakes. See also http://justsayno.com/

Better than that... lets do the same survey, but we'll pick which
websites we'll survey. Let me see, we've got the SLUG home page,
Slashdot, Linux Today, Linux Weekly News ...

MASSIVE USER BASE TURN AROUND
Statistics gathered by Sydney's largest penguin-friendly Computer User
Group show that literally in a matter of months, 95% of the worlds web
surfing population has dumped Windows in favour of the more reliable and
technically superior Linux operating system. See
http://www.slug.org.au/stats/madeup/ for more information.

Matthew
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