I think another problem is that sysadms are, generally, not good at
business maths.  Normally the only thing that a PHB understands is the
bottom line.  If sysadms could put forward a case for the TCO of a
product, and it has to be a case that has realistic, demonstratble,
figures, not one plucked from thin air, then they will present a more
credible case.

The problem with expenditure on security is like the problem of
expenditure on insurance - it's a straight expense unless/until you need
to fall back on it.

Mind you there are still some PHBs who persist in ignoring the bottom
line, often because they are in a position to supplement their own bottom
line at the expense of IT's.

-- 
Howard.
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LANNet Computing Associates <http://www.lannet.com.au>

On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Rachel Polanskis wrote:

> 
> The problem with this argument is that users often ask for things that 
> are not appropriate or they ask for things that while not impossible to 
> accomplish may end up occupying a lot more resources than available. 
> 
> Quite the opposite!
> Programmers and admins *should not* cater for the needs of users. 
> Instead they should be advising the users on what 
> the appropriate technologies are and then directing them towards the 
> required outcome.  Otherwise you will end up with users wasting the 
> time of the IT staff and also probably having unreal expectations of the 
> IT staff's own capabilities.  You will also find the admins having to 
> deal with software and technologies that they are either unprepared for 
> or cause them pull hair out or pass comment like "Did they really pay $10000 
> for this <insert product here>?".
> 
> Users often expect their needs to be dealt with in advance of that
> of the enterprise as well - security is one issue here.  When it comes down
> to making things "simpler" for the poor little cherubs security is one of the
> first things that gets diluted.  This is sub-optimal in any IT dept these 
> days.  When I see/hear of an IT dept that lets their users get away with 
> security loopholes ("because it makes it easier"), it's only a step away 
> from a lawsuit or a cracker attack.  It is generally a good indicator 
> that there will be other systemic problems elsewhere in the IT infrastructure.
> 



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