On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 09:44:16 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> On 29 Nov, enterfornone scribbled:
> ->  On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 08:43:35PM +1100, David wrote:
> ->  > 
> ->  > Personally I believe that Linux has to be a LOT more user friendly before
> ->  > desktop apps are going to be a serious issue.
> ->  > 
> ->  > I am a lot more savvy than the average user, and I find myself constantly
> ->  > struggling with configs and installs.
> ->  
> ->  Never having used mac I can't really compare, but installing a basic 
> ->  desktop distro is simple.  There is a lot about Linux that is beyond
> ->  the average user, but if you can install and configure Windows I can't see
> ->  how you would have trouble installing Linux to the point where you can 
> ->  type letters and surf the web etc.  
> ->  
> ->  What exactly do you find difficult (desktop wise?).
> 
> installing software on linux is a pain - compared to windows. - you
> have to find the right file - read a readme - figure out how to
> decompress/run/do somethngt with that file - get a Cd of 3rd party
> software (linux has distros - but they will never answer everything -
> in the end 3rd party is going to be the "big thing" and it's important
> it gets worked out) and you actually have to go to a lot of effort to
> read the readme - set things up (quake3 is an example) - installign
> drivers is a real pain. under windows installing 4rd party software is
> just a matter of sticking the CD in - same with drivers. windows takes
> it from there - pops up the autorun thing -where you get a nice big
> "install me" button or "uninstall" etc. - its just so much less pain
> and wokr than linux. linxu means u have to be nigh a guru to get 3rd
> party drivers working - getting nvidia's 3d to work is an example -
> everyone at work seems to keep coming to me to "fix" their machines by
> setting this up because i'm one of the few guys around who knwos how to
> make it work - and this is in engineering at VA... just think of the
> poor average joe schmo user... and this is just where the examples
> start... :)
Hmm. But, if you used a distro to its full power, ie with
rpmfind for deadrat or apt-get fro debian, then 99% of software
installs are 100% easier, take less time, and work _right_, a
considerably more consistantly than on windows. If you happen to be
writing the software, or installing brand new, way beyond the
bleading edge releases, sure it's gonna be tricky. But you don't
get that freedom in Windows.
And I can say with no reservations that I'm very very surprised
when I can't find something in the debian package system.
3rd party drivers for the kernel are very much a pain, and
something does need to happen with that...
Guess it comes down to how much pain you wanna cause yourself.
-Thom
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