<quote who="Dan Treacy">

> And what about things like Xfree 4. last time I looked anything apt-getable
> was still in development and not to be taken lightly. As usual things might
> have changed recently but Xf4 has been out for a while...


XFree 4 has now entered unstable main, and it's being updated every few
days, which is kind of alarming stuck on the end of a 56k modem.

There's a big difference between shipping out a few X binaries, and doing it
The Right Way, especially when you have a lot of people on the receiving
end... You're used to the quality and foolhardiness of other Debian
packages, why would X be done differently?

Also, XFree4 has changed quite considerably in terms of files, libraries,
etc., and getting that right 'first time' was simply not going to happen.


> I hear people say well upgrade to woody or whatever. Well that's all well
> and good but if woody is so stable and great why not release Deb 2.3??


The stable tree's best feature is the lack of updates. That's why it's
there. Critical updates and security fixes are backported, so you can rely
on the consistency of a given *version of Debian*. It's not a bunch of
packages lumped together - it's an operating system.

(Great for sysadmins and people who never want to "update unnecessarily".)

That said, I hope there isn't such a long gap between stable releases as
there was between slink and potato. Cool new features make releases hard.

If you're running a desktop machine that you can handle yourself, then go
for woody. Reiteration: It's not the software that's unstable, it's the
distribution.


> Don't get me wrong apt-get is great and it's kept me with debian even when
> there are plenty of things pushing me away.. but there are still places
> where Linux is lagging behind...


Some might say that Debian offers the best infrastructure and development
method to bring Linux over the top. It's certainly the strongest
distribution in terms of policy and standardisation.

- Jeff


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