I've found that the PainGains are very picky with line quality and hence
distances..

Have a look at the Nokia BB2M - extra funky echo cancellation and it will
work longer distances on crappy Telstra copper.

Just make sure that with any HDSL product, that the pairs they give you
are "unloaded" (i.e. no "loading coils" - these attenuate freqs aboe about
3kHz - supposedly to help with voice.. but will render your pairs useless
for data). Make friends with friendly Telstra techs to make this possible
- the company is the worst company in the realms of hell with evil sales,
and legal teams with the worst business practices on Earth, but their
techs are generally very friendly and helpful (which is why so many of 
them leave to join "nicer" companies. :)

//umar.

> If you get a VDSL(PAPL) from Telstra to where you work then you can run xDSL
> over it. Then you will have distance restrictions.
> 
> Pairgain has some good xDSL modems:
> 
>       http://www.pairgain.com/
> 
>       Pete.



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