I think ipchains is disabled in the kernel anyway.
So I can't use it or ipfwadm

Only the option for IPTables I guess

-----Original Message-----
From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2001 2:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Help on Nessus


On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +1000, Crossfire ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP was once rumoured to have said:

[snip]

> For firewalling, first learn about the IP protocol.  TCP/IP
> Illustrated by W.R. Stevens is still the best reference on the
> protocol.  Then you should start learning about how packet filters
> work, and then you should start working out how to use packetfilters
> to limit communications.  I recommend starting with ipf or ipchains,
> and only switching to iptables once you've gotten used to using
> ipchains.

What you said at the start is perfect, yet I disagree with what you said
about ipchains/iptables (or gosh does this end up in a discusion aka 
learn pascal first then learn C ??? hehehehehe).

IMHO ipchains teaches you "wrong things" eg the way packets flow.
  * Iptables has routing built in which makes a descision where 
    packets go not interfering with the input chain.
  * In iptables the log target is better than the log rule.
  * Iptables has the reject target with rules how to reject (icpm)
    which is non existing in ipchains.

I would go straight to iptables, skipping ipchains.
When I started using iptables I had a few questions amongst
"why have two similar packages". Rusty (the maker of ipchains) ansered
that ipchains will be phased out; if you already have ipchains you
can stick with it for a while, but if you new go with iptables.

jobst




PS: (I went stright to C ;-)), skipping pascal)


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