On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 03:21:43PM +1000, Crossfire ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Jobst Schmalenbach was once rumoured to have said:
> > On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +1000, Crossfire ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

[snip]

> Then use ipf which does do things that way.
> 
> iptables is bad for people serious about learning because they'll use
> the stateful rules and not learn about whats going on.  If you're
> serious about doing anything in this field, you need to understand how
> to filter statelessly, since the majority of packetfilters work in
> that manner.
> 
> ie: hard path first, then you can be lazy.

So it *IS* ending up that leg of ((Pascal vs. C)First) ..... ok, I byte.


If you inform yourself using books (eg. Zwicky&Chapman/O'reilly/HOWTOS)
about what a firewall has to achieve, than I dont see the point writing rules
for ipchains, when I just a few weeks later have to re-write them to
make 'em suit to iptables, peoples time cost money after all.


jobst




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