On 29 Oct, George Vieira wrote: > One point, I have seen many windows 9X machines where the SMB system is > screwed and required removal of "File and Print Sharing" off the > machine/Reboot/Reinstall it and it'll work again. > > Usually after a boot up of Win9X, you have to wait a while before network > neighbourhood collects a list of machines on the network.. if you can't get > this list still after 5 minutes then you probably got this "File and Print > Sharing" problem. You should also be able to see your self on the list, not > just the linux box.
So, this is what I get after turning off "File and printer sharing" and then rebooting. The 1st 3 broadcast lines are when I double-clicked on "Entire network", which failed very quickly (under 1 sec). the 2nd time took maybe 5 - 10 secs to fail (I hit Return to force a blank lin ein the output): # /usr/sbin/tcpdump -n -i eth1 Kernel filter, protocol ALL, TURBO mode (575 frames), datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on eth1 23:37:23.557587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:37:23.567587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:37:23.617587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:37:38.387587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:37:38.397587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:37:38.407587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:37:38.407587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:37:38.917587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:37:38.917587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:37:39.417587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:37:39.417587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:37:39.417587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:39.927587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:37:39.927587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:37:39.927587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:40.177587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:40.437587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:37:40.437587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:37:40.437587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:40.687587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:40.927587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:40.947587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:37:40.947587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:37:40.947587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:41.197587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:41.437587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:41.457587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:37:41.457587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:41.697587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:41.947587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:42.207587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:42.447587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:37:42.967587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST Then I added "File and Printer sharing for Microsoft networks" back in again. BTW, it's configured with Browse Master turned off, and "LM announce" set to Yes. After rebooting and while logging in I started tcpdump again and got this: # /usr/sbin/tcpdump -n -i eth1 Kernel filter, protocol ALL, TURBO mode (575 frames), datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on eth1 23:43:17.017587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:43:17.017587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:43:17.017587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:17.267587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:17.517587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:43:17.517587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:43:17.517587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:17.767587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:18.017587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:18.017587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:43:18.017587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:43:18.017587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:18.277587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:18.517587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:18.527587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:43:18.527587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:43:18.777587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:18.787587 B arp who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.101 23:43:19.037587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:19.527587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:43:26.177587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:43:32.247587 > 192.168.1.100.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) (DF) 23:43:32.247587 > 192.168.1.100.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) (DF) 23:43:46.077587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:44:01.207587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) Doing the same "double-click network neighbourhood" test again I get this: 23:45:46.067587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:45:56.837587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:45:56.847587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:45:56.857587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:45:56.857587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:45:57.607587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:45:58.357587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:45:59.117587 B arp who-has 192.168.1.100 tell 192.168.1.101 23:45:59.117587 > arp reply 192.168.1.100 (0:e0:29:9e:ab:b9) is-at 0:e0:29:9e:ab:b9 (0:c0:df:ea:84:a) 23:45:59.117587 < 192.168.1.101.1025 > 192.168.1.100.netbios-ssn: S 200701:200701(0) win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) 23:45:59.117587 > 192.168.1.100 > 192.168.1.101: icmp: 192.168.1.100 tcp port netbios-ssn unreachable (DF) [tos 0xc0] 23:46:01.387587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:02.367587 < 192.168.1.101.1025 > 192.168.1.100.netbios-ssn: S 200701:200701(0) win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) 23:46:02.367587 > 192.168.1.100 > 192.168.1.101: icmp: 192.168.1.100 tcp port netbios-ssn unreachable (DF) [tos 0xc0] 23:46:04.117587 > arp who-has 192.168.1.101 tell 192.168.1.100 (0:e0:29:9e:ab:b9) 23:46:04.117587 < arp reply 192.168.1.101 is-at 0:c0:df:ea:84:a (0:e0:29:9e:ab:b9) 23:46:08.967587 < 192.168.1.101.1025 > 192.168.1.100.netbios-ssn: S 200701:200701(0) win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) 23:46:08.967587 > 192.168.1.100 > 192.168.1.101: icmp: 192.168.1.100 tcp port netbios-ssn unreachable (DF) [tos 0xc0] 23:46:22.147587 < 192.168.1.101.1025 > 192.168.1.100.netbios-ssn: S 200701:200701(0) win 8192 <mss 1460> (DF) 23:46:22.147587 > 192.168.1.100 > 192.168.1.101: icmp: 192.168.1.100 tcp port netbios-ssn unreachable (DF) [tos 0xc0] 23:46:31.417587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:46.067587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C 23:46:48.517587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:46:48.517587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:49.017587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:46:49.017587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:49.017587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:49.527587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:46:49.527587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:49.527587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:49.777587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:50.037587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:46:50.037587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:50.037587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:50.287587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:50.527587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:50.547587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:46:50.547587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:50.547587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:50.797587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:51.037587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:51.057587 B 0:c0:df:ea:84:a > Broadcast sap e0 ui/C IPX/SMB 23:46:51.057587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:46:51.287587 B arp who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.101 23:46:51.297587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:51.547587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:52.057587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-ns > 192.168.1.127.netbios-ns:NBT UDP PACKET(137): QUERY; REQUEST; BROADCAST 23:46:57.977587 > 192.168.1.100.33725 > 203.2.75.132.domain: 51866+ A? mail.optushome.com.au. (39) (DF) 23:47:01.487587 B 192.168.1.101.netbios-dgm > 192.168.1.127.netbios-dgm: NBT UDP (138) 23:47:02.977587 > arp who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.100 (0:e0:29:9e:ab:b9) 23:47:02.977587 < arp reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 0:4:5a:25:35:b (0:e0:29:9e:ab:b9) 23:47:02.987587 > 192.168.1.100.33726 > 198.142.0.51.domain: 51866+ A? mail.optushome.com.au. (39) (DF) 23:47:03.007587 < 198.142.0.51.domain > 192.168.1.100.33726: 51866* 1/2/2 A 203.2.75.209 (132) 23:47:03.007587 > 192.168.1.100.50056 > 203.2.75.209.pop3: S 1262889811:1262889811(0) win 5840 <mss 1460,sackOK,timestamp 30271088 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF) I think mail started coming in then, so I've chopped it off. Also, that took maybe a minute on the Win95 machine before popping up the "Unable to browse the network" error panel. Is any of this helpful? I really appreciate the help and advice you're offering, BTW. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
