<quote who="Anand Kumria">

> > (A good example is the GNOME 2.0 stuff in sid at the moment. They're
> > meant to be shipping GNOME 2.0.x, 
> 
> Why not the actualy "not fit for release ... yet" stuff?

Because it's upstream development releases, prone to breakage and
disappointment. We actually specifically ask distributions not to ship them
(though we are happy for them to go into sid/cooker et al., but there are a
number of reasons why they shouldn't go into sid atm, noted below).

> That is your opinion Jeff. It is just unfortunate that you managed to
> convince Colin et al that what you were saying was gospel.

To begin with, the 2.1.x uploads were a mistake [1]. Beyond that, the Debian
GNOME dudes have been working their arses off to get the 2.0.x stuff working
really well. Christian and Colin did an enormous amount of work to get 1.x
settings migration. It bears repeating that NO OTHER DISTRIBUTION does that.
Mucho kudos.

So, the point is to get Debian's 2.0.x tested and kicking arse so it can
migrate down into testing now. When that's done, shifting to 2.1.x in sid
would be a natural. If sarge freezes before GNOME 2.2, it will have a good
2.0.x (the 2.1.x stuff would have RC bugs filed against it so it doesn't
migrate). If GNOME 2.2 comes out before sarge, they're already on their way
to getting it ship shape and rocking (so they can pull out the RC bugs and
run with it).

What I say isn't gospel for the Debian dudes, but it's way cool that Colin
cares enough (both for GNOME and Debian) to listen, and that he's smart
enough to develop his plan and run with it... That's what the Debian GNOME
team were missing for so long. He's kicking lots of arse.

Woo! Controversy!

- Jeff

[1] One which I contributed to with the rearrangement of the GNOME FTP site,
because it is less clear which releases are for which branches now. That's
what confused Takuo in the first place.

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