On  7 Mar, Mike MacCana wrote:
>  up2date -u 
>  up2date --solvedeps= 
>  up2date --whatprovides= 
>   
>  Apt is useful, but 99% of people's complains about rpm seem to be they 
>  never bothered to download the documentation CD, or just decided they 
>  were too cool to read the docs, and hence don't know about up2date, 
>  which has been in Red Hat for four or five versions now. 

I thought up2date could only be used to update security fixes from RH.
You're saying I could have used that to update my X11 instead of
fetching all the rpms?  If I say "update -l", which lists all new
packages, it lists nothing, since everything is up to date.  Yet since
I'm running RH 7.2, that means I'm using old versions of kde and gnome.

I had a look at the man page for the first time, following your email.
Yep, it looks good too.  Apparently I can say, e.g., "up2date kdebase".

It doesn't actually define what a package is, though, so I don't know
if I could say "update kde", or update "gnome".  Do you know what a
channel is, that it says can be associated with a package?

If I say: up2date --showall | grep -i kde it reports nothing, so
apparently it changes its output when output is redirected in any
way, since I can only collect the output via copy and paste from X, in
which case I see there are 83 packages in kde (but they're all 2.2.2).

How weird is that?  But in either case, it appears it won't update
anything except the hot fixes that RH produce.  So I can't update kde to
3.1 or gnome from 1.4 to 2.2, it seems.

Whereas I'm optimistic I can with apt-rpm.

I could be just confused though.  I'd be happy to learn I'm wrong!

luke

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