On Sunday 19 March 2006 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Someone reccomends ubuntu, maybe I don't remember the sys-admin, I
> >> strongly reccomend SuSE, get 9.3 not 10.
> >>    
> >
> >Recommending a previous version of a distribution over its current version
> >is a pretty poor recommendation. That means the distribution is going
> > backwards. 
>
> Normally I would agree, but in the case of SuSE I have also recommended
> 9.3 over 10.0 to newbies.
> The reason for this is ease of use, most desktop users want dvd playback
> and other media formats to just work, like they just work in 9.3.
> With 10.0, novell in their wisdom have decided not only to leave out
> libdvdcss, but also go a step further and prevent the media player from
> ever being able to play certain proprietary codecs, you have to
> completely uninstall the media player, find another yast repository that
> supports other builds and reinstall the player, and then go get
> libdvdcss aswell as other codecs. That is just simply too much to ask of
> a newbie.
>
> If I were to use SuSE (I'm an Ubuntu user) I would use 10.0 and gets
> things to work, but for a newbie, 9.3 pro every time, just less hassle.
>
> >I have set my mother-in-law and my father up on Debian machines. If I was
> >to do it again I would probably choose ubuntu. I have run two versions
> >of ubuntu and AFAIAC the latter one was an improvement over the earlier
> > one. 
>
> Yes, I always put people onto Ubuntu by default. Standard install and
> then run automatix and away they go. Its only when someone specifically
> want SuSE and they are very green, I tell them 9.3.

While I agree in principal, and I'm very much in favour of SuSE, I have 
recently installed SuSE10 on:

A dell 2400 for my father-in-law in the UK
A P4 for a mate
My P4 (tigger!)
AMD64X2
Celeron for a mate

I'm now going through the agony of converting every one back to 9.3 except the 
AMD64 where I'm trying ubuntu.

Why ...
AC'97 audio not detected
Sound blaster live not working
nvidia graphics AFU (I found a patch to fix twinview) then OK
wav files not playable (rate set to 32000, then nothing)
skype fails (suse > 9rpm: inappropriate ioctl)
DVICO dvb card works (mythtv-0.19), twinhan does not!
kscd does not play [even though some sound works]
tigger froze (no ping, no X, no KB) 2x in 2 days, has uptimes of 100s days 
with 9.3

So, let the buyer beware, I'll not recommend 10.

I just finished ubuntu install:
quite basic compared with SuSE
I have 3 cups printers on my network, suse detects them on install + finds 
local printer
ubuntu printer: "There was an error launching the application"
mmmm first impression not good.

Oh, my credintials: been using unix for 30 years (PDP11 + 15M HD + 100K ram !)
was teaching sys-admin for Hewlett Packard 20 years ago, used linux since 
1992, make a living by consulting support for RHE, RH9, SuSE, CentOS there is 
more, but that's enough to justify a considered opinion.
James
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