[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeff my wurry here is that a very elegant and clever system invented by Tompson Ritchie et al is disgarded because the <no doubt clever> ubuntu developers don't understand why it was done, and trashed it as useless.

Don't blame ubuntu devs for this. Its inherited from Debian. And its just a default. this thread on debian-policy discusses it:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2005/09/msg00009.html

You are talking about a Redhat system or derivative that uses the different runlevels in different ways. You can setup your Debian derivative system to do that - there is plenty of Googlejuice about it.



I'm working on migrating as POS system (1000s systems, worldwide) from RH9 to ubuntu. Unless I can reverse the run level stuff, I can't use it! Consider: a box boots as 1) a thin client 2) a thick client 3) a stand alone order taker 4) A manager PC. Elegantly handled by run levels, different services in different runlevels corresponding to the different roles. So don't use ubuntu, work around what they've done or put things back as they were.

They were that way on a Redhat derivative. Differences between distros are just that, differences. There are plenty of other differences between the distros, you just need to understand why they are there.

From my perspective it would be nice if they did stuff eg no root login
and you could put it back just as easily (sudo passwd root)

but you are not a normal user, and don't expect everything to be easy...

dave
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