<quote who="jam">

> I DO want the ubuntu-desktop, but I won't use and don't want most of the
> apps including the ones desktop depends on.

The ubuntu-desktop package is a meta-package. There's nothing in it. The
only reason it exists is to provide Depends and Recommends metadata. You can
remove the ubuntu-desktop package without breaking anything.

> At this point even openoffice is depended on by the desktop so I can't
> even ditch that

You absolutely can. In fact, the OpenOffice.org packages are all Recommends
rather than Depends, so you can actually remove it without removing the meta
package (ubuntu-desktop).

Here's how to start:

  apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop

Start removing crap you don't want that is listed on the Recommends line. If
you want to remove some of the stuff on the Depends line, that's fine, but
that will result in the ubuntu-desktop meta package being removed, which is
okay until you want to upgrade and get all the cool new things it helpfully
depends on.

- Jeff

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