Jeff Waugh <[email protected]> writes:
> <quote who="Daniel Pittman">
>
>> > Experimenting is fun. Reality is hard.
>>
>> I notice you omitted the section of my email where, indeed, I note that
>> this is from practical experience.
>
> Sorry, but ROX and GNUstep are experimentations. They don't have users
> or vendors or real systems they need to integrate with or previous
> version compatibility issues, etc. When I say "reality", I mean
> products shipping and an active marketplace around them (which *can*
> be said for GNOME/KDE).

Ah.  I see.  Yes, if you use that definition then, indeed, I have only
"experimental" experience.

It would have been easier to argue if you had stated that definition up
front, though, since most people (in my experience, obviously) consider
shipping software that is used by some hundreds of people "released".

Even your definition strays dangerously toward that, although perhaps
you are considering only recent years, not way back when they were
innovative and current, while GNOME and KDE were rather ... younger.

> Then the hairier issues of software support beyond "hey does this
> stuff work?" start to bite.

Yes, indeed, they do.  That said, I stand by my assertion that the
problem of AppFolders remains in integration outside the environment,
not within it.

Regards,
        Daniel

...that is a pretty big caveat, though. :)
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