On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 20:26 +0800, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Maung Myat Thu @ Billy Aung Myint wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 17:16 +0800, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:
> > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Anton wrote:
> > > > I think OpenOffice can open/save both formats. It also has been
> > > > released (alpha?) for Mac OS X recently. Correct me if I'm wrong. There
> > > > are also plugins (http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter/ , etc)
> > > > to help you.
> > > >
> > > > > > I currently work in a Institute of Higher Learning in Singapore,
> > > > > > and my wife works in another one here too. In hers, the school has
> > > > > > standardized
> > > > > >
> > > > > > on Office 2007 and everyone uses the new DOCX, PPTX formats.
> > > > > > Problem is, for part-timers like my wife, who is using a Mac, not
> > > > > > everyone can open the new files, even when using older MS Office
> > > > > > suites. My wife uses the Office 2004 for Mac suite on her
> > > > > > PowerBook, and is unable to open any Office2007 files. This is
> > > > > > incredibly frustrating.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thankfully, I was able to open the DOCX files using NeoOffice, but
> > > > > > PPTX remains un-openable (is there such a word?).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do others on this list feel about this? MOE in Singapore is
> > > > > > very pro-Microsoft, and this is not always a good thing for those
> > > > > > using alternative operating systems. I feel quite repulsed as a
> > > > > > consumer, as we are being forced to upgrade to Office 2007 just to
> > > > > > be able to open the new file formats.
> > >
> > > My question is why is there not more active participation at a policy
> > > level from advocacy groups here? I am new to Singapore, but am fairly
> > > versed in how the country runs. Decisions such as supporting vendor
> > > specific
> > > implementations should be a public open process. Has anyone on this list
> > > or involved with the OSS community in SG ever tried submitting open
> > > letters etc. I would be very interested to hear experiences.
> >
> > Harish has , on many occasions , voiced out about this issue on the
> > Straits Times Forum.
> >
> > http://ooonewsletter.blogspot.com/2006/04/opendocument-format-benefits.html
> >
> > This is one link I could find from google .. I am sure there are more.
> >
> > regards
> > billy
> >
> 
> My query is more on a 'organised professional' entity level, rather than the 
> single voice level. I.e In New Zealand the Open Source Society has 
> successfully defeated Microsoft patent application for ODOC, and has informed 
> policy wording on a number of occasions. Normally with backing from other 
> community groups (such as Lugs, and Businesses which use FOSS)
> 
> I am just curious if there are NPO's in sing doing the same.
> 
> Does Singapore have a Digital Strategy  Document, NZ government made one a 
> couple of years ago, and while not going so far as to define file formats, 
> make a number of mandates about accessibility and future compatibility. Both 
> for Internal and External government agency practice. I was somewhat involved 
> in parts of this so am curious what (if anything) Singapore has done.

I am more curious on how New Zealand Open Source Society Defeated
Microsoft patent application for ODOC. How was it done?

regards
billy

> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> JoelW
> 
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