Hi Martin, This is really informative. Thanks for sharing!
Regards, -Alfred On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Martin Langsjoen <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:17 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: > > GTK+/GNOME has been ugly and dead ever since Qt/KDE was made > > available. I believe the primary reason for corporates and the rest of > > linuxkind not favouring Qt was its license - and that's no longer an > > issue now as we see it (: > > All the major Linux distributions and Sun Solaris uses Gnome as their > main desktop environment. > > This is mainly because of the historic lisenses of Qt. > > Red Hat Advanced Development Labs was working on Gnome 1. Red Hat has > been working on every release after that. > http://web.archive.org/web/19990421142013/http://www.labs.redhat.com/ > http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.labs.redhat.com > http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.labs.redhat.com/projects.shtml > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions > > Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) was one of the developers that worked for > Red Hat Advanced Development Labs. > > http://web.archive.org/web/19990424073400/www.news-observer.com/daily/1999/01/17/biz00.html > > Ximian (previously called Helix Code) was another important developer > team. I seem to remember that they focused most on the end user > experience while Red Hat focused most on the lower end of the stack. > They was later bought buy Novell just before Novell bought Suse. Ximian > pushed for Gnome as the standard desktop in Suse. > http://web.archive.org/web/20000407120058/http://www.helixcode.com/ > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS9319363052.html > http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/SuSE-Users-Panic-Unfounded/ > > I know from first hand observation and participation that the Qt license > has been a major issue that has been debated for years. Knut Yrvin (the > community manager of Qt Software) and me had many heated debates about > this is in the past. I do not know what he personally had to do with > this, but he is one of those who push hard and wide. I will buy him a > beer next time I see him. > > Nokia uses Gnome technology in their Internet tablets. Many questions > was asked when a Gnome company like Nokia bought Qt. Nokia has been > working on merging Gnome and KDE technologies for their own needs. > Version 5 of the Nokia Maemo Linux plattform will see some of this work. > http://www.gnome.asia/static/upload/event_file/gnome_asia_maemo_qt_002.pdf > http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/09/05/qgtkstyle-now-part-of-qt/ > > Gnome and KDE will co-locate their main developer conferanses this year. > My guess is that will be a very interesting, challenging, creative, and > important event. A major opportunity for the future of the free and open > desktop. > "GNOME and KDE to Co-locate Flagship Conferences on Gran Canaria in > 2009" - > http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2008-07-guadec-akademy-grancanaria.html > > There are some issues that remains to be sorted out. George Makrydakis > points out some interesting issues in this blog: "LGPL 2.1, Qt 4.5 and C > ++ templates" - > http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/lgpl-21-qt-45-and-c-templates > > It seems like this issue is already forwarded to the license lawyers at > Nokia. The future is promising. > > Enlightenment? It might be used by some, but my guess is that it will be > hard to push the Enlightenment technology on a large scale. KDE and > Gnome have many years of stabilization and a working ecosystem of > developers surrounding them. KDE and Gnome goes towards shared > technologies and standardization. Enlightenment can join in, but it > seems like Enlightenment have different interests. > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/05/31/1917240 > > I am personally opening a bottle of Champagne if the Qt license change > happens! > > Have a nice, hot, and humid day! > -martin > > > _______________________________________________ > Slugnet mailing list > [email protected] > http://wiki.lugs.org.sg/LugsMailingListFaq > http://www.lugs.org.sg/mailman/listinfo/slugnet >
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