Hi,

if there is of any help, i can help redevelop the site.

cheers!

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Ray Rashif <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here for the record and further discussion (if any), Michael Clark advises:
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Michael Clark <[email protected]>
> Date: 2009/6/5
> Subject: Re: [Slugnet] Spice up your LUG
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Ray Rashif <[email protected]>
>
>
> I made this offer once before and I'll make it again. If we get a new LUGS
> committee together with an AGM with the 6 committee posts filled, and given
> that it is being done in cooperation with SLMG (perhaps a new LUGS/SLMG) I
> will pledge $1000 donation to this new LUGS/SLMG committee. I have made this
> offer before and it still stands.
>
> The intention is that the group uses it to get a single registered adress,
> PO Box or secretarial service, so that we can have an address for
> communications that is not tied to one particular committee member (allowing
> flexible transitions between new committees), which is one of the flaws I
> saw with LUGS in the past that has some room for improvement (it was usually
> half way into the term of a new committee until the address had been changed
> with ROS, ACRA, bank, etc... due to signatures and resolutions, etc), so
> that the secretarial load for handling of membership dues, etc can be shared
> between those who have the time available.
>
> Preferably an online sign-up for membership (for those of us who can give
> money as a way to help the group organise its activities) - of course
> retaining a free (monetary donationless) membership class (e.g. slugnet) as
> we understand not all should have to pay, and donations of time count too.
> This was one of the original gripes that I understood was a factor in the
> SLMG group forking from LUGS community originally (as LUGS used to charge a
> $10 fee for non-member attendance at meetings, although this fee was
> subsequently abolished). I think it should be an optional $60 donation for
> membership (which means we would have roughly 500 members now if we count up
> slugnet).
>
> So are 6 of you guys going to make me poor - so far no one has bitten... I
> think I may be safe ... :).
>
> Sorry for top posting btw...
>
> Michael Clark wrote:
>
>> Ray Rashif wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps centralising the various resources and organisations? For eg.
>>> SLMG is mentioned as a "sister organisation", but aren't informal meetups
>>> also a function of a Linux user group? They're currently seen as two
>>> different social entities, and it'd be better if they could be merged.
>>> Various groups serving different communities make sense in larger areas, but
>>> not here.
>>>
>>
>> Those who are organising the linux monthly meetings choose to go under a
>> different banner for various historical reasons.
>>
>> Having been a longstanding LUGS member I don't see the need to have
>> competing meetings so I have not worked actively to create a 2nd meeting to
>> SLMG  (instead I have helped organise SLMG meetings in the past), i.e. if
>> there is demand for a LUGS meeting we'll probably just ask the SLMG folk to
>> create an event on meetup.com anyway - it is all the same group of
>> people...
>>
>> I am currently not aware of a great deal of interest from the community in
>> general to get meetings going again under the LUGS banner. I was suggesting
>> to Tom Goh that SLMG pick up LUGS. If there is enough interest, we can hold
>> an AGM to elect the 6 required committee members to keep LUGS going. The
>> problem in the past has always been one of getting enough volunteers to
>> actually commit to holding posts on the executive committee. That said, I
>> encourage you to rake up support and prod the current executive of LUGS (for
>> which I am part of) to hold an AGM. The required committee posts are all
>> outlined on the wiki.
>>
>> The LUGS site could also be made to appear more active, hence "spicing it
>>> up". I'd lean towards a simple CMS-based web, like drupal or wordpress. I've
>>> recently been notified of a wp lookalike, habari [[
>>> http://habariproject.org/en/ ]]. Personally, I like wp since it also
>>> provides seamless integration of forums via bbpress.
>>>
>>
>> Yes - We don't really have a main website at present, only the wiki. The
>> main website was being run on a colocated machine at one point (running
>> plone), and there was no backup and the disk failed and became corrupted
>> beyond recoverability. We redirected the site to the wiki in the interim
>> (and it has been that way since). I'm not sure if LUGS has an appointed
>> webmaster at the moment.
>>
>> That said, the wiki is completely open (you just need to sign up), only
>> the frontpage is restricted from editing, and if someone requests to have a
>> link on the front page (send to [email protected]) I tend to respond
>> quite quickly.
>>
>> In the short term MoinMoin can be made to look quite spicy (ubuntu.comuses 
>> it), so if someone gives me an ubuntu theme they like, I can install
>> it, and if folk like it we can make it the default. I am happy to work with
>> anyone who is interested to put a nice theme on the present LUGS wiki.
>>
>> Creating a new website would be a later task for a new LUGS committee.
>>
>> With those in place, there may be more members, subscribers, and
>>> ultimately more interest and manpower to participate in events, workshops,
>>> and the like under the LUGS banner.
>>>
>>
>> I do agree. I think there needs to be a fresh set of 6 people stand up for
>> the committee posts and prompt for an AGM/election to be held. I am willing
>> to help out but with my present outside of work commitments, I would not
>> stand for a committee position at a future LUGS AGM.
>>
>> I personally think there doesn't need to be a division within Singapore in
>> the Linux committee so I think it should be somehow done together with SLMG,
>> as presently it seems a little strange to how the linux meetings are held
>> under the SLMG banner with no mention of LUGS.... i.e. the option is open to
>> use the LUGS banner at SLMG meetings has always been there...
>>
>> The fact that people want to maintain a division and partisanship is why
>> I'm now hesitant to offer any support - as i'm not interested in all of the
>> politics... I would like to see LUGS keep going and I have in the past
>> support both groups having organised meetings for both, so I am clearly
>> non-partisan... If I see a group of people who support both SLMG and LUGS
>> then I am happy to work together with them (but not with anyone who wishes
>> to take sides).
>>
>> Michael.
>>
>>
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