On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Roy Ong <[email protected]> wrote:
> for what has been discussed, said and expressed (i will reserve my views > for later) i still don't see 6 names. maybe the format isn't right, so > let me help out. > > put your name in the following list if you feel that you WANT and ARE > ABLE to contribute time and effort to the LUGS community for at least > the next 12 months starting july 2009. let's not worry about which posts > etc., we'll go into the details at the AGM proper. let's work with a > list of names / potential candidates first. volunteer yourself today. > > 01. Billy > 02. > 03. > 04. > 05. > 06. > 07. > 08. > 09. > 10. > 11. > 12. > > have a good weekend! > > On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 18:16 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: > > Here for the record and further discussion (if any), Michael Clark > > advises: > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > From: Michael Clark <[email protected]> > > Date: 2009/6/5 > > Subject: Re: [Slugnet] Spice up your LUG > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Ray Rashif <[email protected]> > > > > > > I made this offer once before and I'll make it again. If we get a new > > LUGS committee together with an AGM with the 6 committee posts filled, > > and given that it is being done in cooperation with SLMG (perhaps a > > new LUGS/SLMG) I will pledge $1000 donation to this new LUGS/SLMG > > committee. I have made this offer before and it still stands. > > > > The intention is that the group uses it to get a single registered > > adress, PO Box or secretarial service, so that we can have an address > > for communications that is not tied to one particular committee member > > (allowing flexible transitions between new committees), which is one > > of the flaws I saw with LUGS in the past that has some room for > > improvement (it was usually half way into the term of a new committee > > until the address had been changed with ROS, ACRA, bank, etc... due to > > signatures and resolutions, etc), so that the secretarial load for > > handling of membership dues, etc can be shared between those who have > > the time available. > > > > Preferably an online sign-up for membership (for those of us who can > > give money as a way to help the group organise its activities) - of > > course retaining a free (monetary donationless) membership class (e.g. > > slugnet) as we understand not all should have to pay, and donations of > > time count too. This was one of the original gripes that I understood > > was a factor in the SLMG group forking from LUGS community originally > > (as LUGS used to charge a $10 fee for non-member attendance at > > meetings, although this fee was subsequently abolished). I think it > > should be an optional $60 donation for membership (which means we > > would have roughly 500 members now if we count up slugnet). > > > > So are 6 of you guys going to make me poor - so far no one has > > bitten... I think I may be safe ... :). > > > > Sorry for top posting btw... > > > > > > Michael Clark wrote: > > Ray Rashif wrote: > > Perhaps centralising the various resources and > > organisations? For eg. SLMG is mentioned as a "sister > > organisation", but aren't informal meetups also a > > function of a Linux user group? They're currently seen > > as two different social entities, and it'd be better > > if they could be merged. Various groups serving > > different communities make sense in larger areas, but > > not here. > > > > Those who are organising the linux monthly meetings choose to > > go under a different banner for various historical reasons. > > > > Having been a longstanding LUGS member I don't see the need to > > have competing meetings so I have not worked actively to > > create a 2nd meeting to SLMG (instead I have helped organise > > SLMG meetings in the past), i.e. if there is demand for a LUGS > > meeting we'll probably just ask the SLMG folk to create an > > event on meetup.com anyway - it is all the same group of > > people... > > > > I am currently not aware of a great deal of interest from the > > community in general to get meetings going again under the > > LUGS banner. I was suggesting to Tom Goh that SLMG pick up > > LUGS. If there is enough interest, we can hold an AGM to elect > > the 6 required committee members to keep LUGS going. The > > problem in the past has always been one of getting enough > > volunteers to actually commit to holding posts on the > > executive committee. That said, I encourage you to rake up > > support and prod the current executive of LUGS (for which I am > > part of) to hold an AGM. The required committee posts are all > > outlined on the wiki. > > > > The LUGS site could also be made to appear more > > active, hence "spicing it up". I'd lean towards a > > simple CMS-based web, like drupal or wordpress. I've > > recently been notified of a wp lookalike, habari > > [[ http://habariproject.org/en/ ]]. Personally, I like > > wp since it also provides seamless integration of > > forums via bbpress. > > > > Yes - We don't really have a main website at present, only the > > wiki. The main website was being run on a colocated machine at > > one point (running plone), and there was no backup and the > > disk failed and became corrupted beyond recoverability. We > > redirected the site to the wiki in the interim (and it has > > been that way since). I'm not sure if LUGS has an appointed > > webmaster at the moment. > > > > That said, the wiki is completely open (you just need to sign > > up), only the frontpage is restricted from editing, and if > > someone requests to have a link on the front page (send to > > [email protected]) I tend to respond quite quickly. > > > > In the short term MoinMoin can be made to look quite spicy > > (ubuntu.com uses it), so if someone gives me an ubuntu theme > > they like, I can install it, and if folk like it we can make > > it the default. I am happy to work with anyone who is > > interested to put a nice theme on the present LUGS wiki. > > > > Creating a new website would be a later task for a new LUGS > > committee. > > > > With those in place, there may be more members, > > subscribers, and ultimately more interest and manpower > > to participate in events, workshops, and the like > > under the LUGS banner. > > > > I do agree. I think there needs to be a fresh set of 6 people > > stand up for the committee posts and prompt for an > > AGM/election to be held. I am willing to help out but with my > > present outside of work commitments, I would not stand for a > > committee position at a future LUGS AGM. > > > > I personally think there doesn't need to be a division within > > Singapore in the Linux committee so I think it should be > > somehow done together with SLMG, as presently it seems a > > little strange to how the linux meetings are held under the > > SLMG banner with no mention of LUGS.... i.e. the option is > > open to use the LUGS banner at SLMG meetings has always been > > there... > > > > The fact that people want to maintain a division and > > partisanship is why I'm now hesitant to offer any support - as > > i'm not interested in all of the politics... I would like to > > see LUGS keep going and I have in the past support both groups > > having organised meetings for both, so I am clearly > > non-partisan... If I see a group of people who support both > > SLMG and LUGS then I am happy to work together with them (but > > not with anyone who wishes to take sides). > > > > Michael. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Slugnet mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://wiki.lugs.org.sg/LugsMailingListFaq > > http://www.lugs.org.sg/mailman/listinfo/slugnet > > > > _______________________________________________ > Slugnet mailing list > [email protected] > http://wiki.lugs.org.sg/LugsMailingListFaq > http://www.lugs.org.sg/mailman/listinfo/slugnet >
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