I agree with Jack. 

At most, why note make a power shot with three settings: 12v, 15v, and 
18v? That would seem simpler and cheaper than trying to build potentially 
troublesome intelligence into it.

Sam
Not an EE

:)

 On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Jack Berridge 
wrote:

> Sounds interesting....and scary.  I'm not an EE but when you start talking 
> about an "intelligent powershot" that is capable of making decision based 
> on "sensing the cabling length" it scares me.  This scares me because 
> "intelligent devices" tend to die (fail) more often than a good old dumb 
> device that's only purpose is to provide a specific (designed/engineered) 
> amount of power.  To me, I see an intelligent device as another point of 
> failure just waiting to happen.  Whereas, if we had a straight 18v power 
> supply (powershot) it's either working.....or not.  No intelligence, no 
> extra features or sensors to worry about failing --- just good old power 
> source that is capable of supplying 18v as designed/engineered.  Why do you 
> feel the need to have an intelligent powershot versus one single straight 
> 18v that works for short and/or long Ethernet cable runs?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:10 AM 6/12/2003 +0800, you wrote:
> >This is going to change. As I mentioned earlier, we are working to have 
> >higher power voltage adaptor and with intelligent powershot that can 
> >dynamically adjust the power supply based on cable length sensed. So it 
> >will be one universal AC power adaptor.
> >
> >Alex
> >sB Tech Support
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Berridge
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:37 PM
> >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] POE, voltage range
> >
> >Curious.  If you highly recommend using smartBridges power supply for 
> >smartBridges devices, why doesn't smartBridges have a power supply and PoE 
> >solution that works to the maximum Ethernet cable specs (~300 feet)?  Why 
> >even have the 12v power supply?  Why not have an 18v power supply that 
> >will work with the 50' or less cable runs as well as the longer cable 
> >runs?  At least for the outdoor (WISP type) solutions.  Other vendors we 
> >work with use the higher end (18v, even 24v) power supplies and it works 
> >for the short as well as the long runs.  It just seems that the 12v has 
> >caused your user community more problems which are resolved by going to 
> >15v or 18v solutions......why not have an 18v be the normal (default) 
> >solution for outdoor smartBridges solutions?
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jack
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  PM 6/11/2003 +0800, you wrote:
> >
> >>If you are using any third party power supply, please use the regulated 
> >>DC voltage power supply.   We are highly recommended to use our 
> >>smartBridges               Power supply for our devices.  If the Ethernet 
> >>cable length exceeds more than 50 meters, then only 18V is recommended.
> >>
> >>Seeni,   SB support
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phantam
> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:57 AM
> >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] POE, voltage range
> >>
> >>Dynamic power sounds intriguing.
> >>
> >>----------
> >>From: Mark Koskenmaki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:32 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>Thank you.   I have no fears of even reaching 15V, but wanted to make 
> >>sure that even if somehow things got to 15.5 or 16, it would be ok.
> >>
> >>Thanks again.
> >>
> >>Mark
> >>
> >>
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> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Alex Wong
> >>To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:29 AM
> >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] POE, voltage range
> >>We recommend 18V as max athough can be higher. Pls refer to this link for 
> >>more details. 
> >><http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/ps.php>http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/ps.php
> >> 
> >>
> >>We are also in the development stage of having a dyanmic power supply 
> >>that can automatically adjsut the power supply based on the cable sense.
> >>Alex
> >>sB Tech Support
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:03 AM
> >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >>Subject: [smartBridges] POE, voltage range
> >>What's the upper limit for voltage, for POE on the ABO and APPO?
> >>Thanks
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