Title: RE: [smartBridges] Max clients per APPO ? SmartBridge recommended for covering a small community ?

I agree but the fact is residential is the only cost effective way when we're talking like 300 a month for the rack in the building per month, and 100 per antenna on a tower outside, sure they do it nice and great power but not cost effective, we offer our clients that we want to use as repeaters the upgrade to 5ghz, and a better speed package in exchange for the use of there land, normally we mount a 10' pole or something like that on the back of there house, put all equipment in a NEMA box, run power from there breaker box straight up and done. We are going back to our old sites that we did like this putting in a autoswitch+inverter+5 deep cycle 4 hour marine battery's to give us some good stability to our nema box.

 

As a note we are going to have pictures of the 6 antenna site in a day or so as it is progressing nicely NOTE its not a tower and no I don't wanna hear about "BUT IF THERE SIDE BY SIDE THE CHANNELS WILL OVERLAP" ye ye only for a short distance and yes we have tried it before without fail just got to keep dem channels far enough away and the antennas spread enough, I know im throwing everyone off, its just I don't want to post pictures until I get all the 5ghz shit moved to the short tower and get the old omni's off the tower cause right now its confusing...

 

Chris

 


From: The Wirefree Network [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Chris,

Not sure if you are already doing this...but here is my 2 cents on repeater sites.

 

  1. Bad idea at residential locations (if the site goes down, very hard to access-unless everything is external and you have explicit written permission to enter premises 24x7).  What if the owner moves?  Do you get contracts signed for a specific time period??

 

  1. If you do go with residential repeater locations (as I do too)...then I would recommend a separate (unswitched) power connection to all equipment.  You don't want the client on location to even have the possibility of turning the power off.  I mount a layer 2 switch in the attic and plug it (along with my POE units) into my newly installed outlet that is tapped power off of the fire alarm system.  The switch is needed for a back to back radio repeater with client on location as well.  Depending on how many clients you have off of that repeater (and whether or not they are business clients), you may want to put an UPS in the attic as well.

 

Another big reason to go with non-residential repeater locations is just the power issue.  Normally, power is a little better at business locations (i.e. gas stations).  Not to mention the fact that they may have backup power.

 

Sully

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of phantam
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Max clients per APPO ? SmartBridge recommende d for covering a small community ?

 

Don't go that high yet we're doing a 6 sector pop but we had some delays because of some financial issues and some problems waiting on amps... shud be done in a week I believe we don't plan on doing big like 9 or 12,  6 on this and one other main pop site but we are going to be using dedicated clients as repeaters as well as clients (we upgrade them to 5ghz and add a omni to it and walla new POP that's free except for the expense of 1 client.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Haynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:01 PM
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Wait for Chris (Phantom) to chime in, he is in the process of setting up a 9
or 12 radio POP.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Rob Cleminson
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Max clients per APPO ? SmartBridge recommended
for covering a small community ?

 

Some Excellent feedback but has anyone actually tried this for real or
something similar -

If not how do people service hundreds of clients in one location?

Rob

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lars Gaarden
Sent: 04 August 2003 21:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Max clients per APPO ? SmartBridge
recommended for covering a small community ?

Tom Haynes wrote:
> You can use only 3 channels in the same coverage area. You can put 12
AP on
> the same tower if you plan it right. North - V-POL 60* sectors ch
1,6,11 ;
> East - H-POL 60* sectors ch 1,6,11 ; South - V-POL 60* sectors ch
1,6,11 ;
> West - H-POL 60* sectors ch 1,6,11
>
> With some good engineering you can put 36 AP's like this:
> Each direction have an array like this
> HI    H1  H6  H11
> MID   V11 V1  V6
> LOW   H6  H11 H1
> Adjust each sectors gain, VBW, FB, etc to match the density

Are any people really doing this? That would require client antennas
with very narrow vertical and AP antennas with very good polarity and
f/b ratio, no?

--
LarsG

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