I seen single port routers capable of pppoe that been sold for as little as 6.95 (tigerdirect.com - efficient (siemens) routers).
Yes Mikrotik can do pptp however it is not dynamic you have to create a pptp interface for each client and it do not support radius which are two things that are very strong things speaking for pppoe. You know one thing that is kind of funny years back when I looked at doing dsl I did NOT want to do pppoe. If you had asked me I would have said it plainly sucked bulky messy and I would give you every possible excuse not to use it. Today I would never dream about running a 802.11b network without it [pppoe] or some sort of hotspot authentication. Why ? Because 802.11b is to easy to hack into and gain access to and the ONLY way to securely protect you is pppoe or second best hotspot. Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 - Your Full Time Professionals - eBay UserID : macahan --- searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ -- KS> RE: [smartBridges] Microtik - EjeIf they are Windows clients, use PPTP for KS> authentication. The same KS> features are available for bandwidth limiting, and anything that is KS> Windows 98SE or newer has PPTP support built in. It only works for KS> single users, but if that is what you have, then you are set. For those KS> that are multiple machines behind a CPE you can get the router and KS> spend the $9.99 on them. KS> The "redirect page" feature I think you are referring to is the HotSpot KS> feature. It works very slick and doesn't require any configuration on KS> the client machine. It also works with multiple clients behind a CPE. KS> Kevin Summers KS> KISTech Internet Services Inc. KS> www.kistech.com KS> -----Original Message----- KS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Chance KS> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:05 AM KS> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' KS> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Microtik - Eje KS> I know really it's a matter of cost the PPPoE solution is thebest along KS> with using routers at the clients but so far cheapest I have found is 9.99 KS> sounds great but its 49.99 with a 40 dollar mail in rebate that's not a KS> possibility considering my bank account doesn't come close to covering the KS> 150 clients that would need the routers rolling trucks isn't even the KS> problem cause I could get my friends to do it with me. How do I set the KS> queue tree for port's? for the overrides I couldn't find this? Can you give KS> me a basic setup for what I would have to do from a bare 2.7.8 microtik box KS> to get 1 client up at 512/128 with pop and smtp overridden to do unlimited KS> along with the ARP authorization. I would really appreciate it eje, things KS> might just be promising then even though I can't get the redirection page to KS> work that's one feature I wish the microtik had then I could really pump it KS> are they taking any recommendations ? I mean the webserver is already KS> implemented on the box so it shouldn't be that hard. KS> Chris KS> -----Original Message----- KS> From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KS> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:18 AM KS> To: Chris Chance KS> Currently you can only set a upload limit based on mac address. KS> If you create static arp entries then they will not be able to pass KS> any traffic even if they change ips. KS> Sounds like from what you want to do you need to setup a queue tree as KS> well create some override rules that would allow higher speed on pop3 KS> and smtp. KS> If you set the interface to arp reply-only then a unauthorized user KS> will not be able to pass any traffic. There is no redirect page but KS> then they will not be able to pass any traffic either (which should be KS> a good hint). KS> If you really want a secure network you should use pppoe then you can KS> have all automated for you and don't need to worry about users KS> changing ips or unathorized users. PPPoE is your friend. KS> Best regards, KS> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KS> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com KS> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 KS> - Your Full Time Professionals - KS> eBay UserID : macahan KS> --- KS> searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. KS> http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ KS> -- KS> CC> Eje I'm really considering the microtik for our client bandwidth KS> management KS> CC> until the nexus come out but I have a problem... I got basic queues to KS> work KS> CC> by IP although this isn't what we wanted.. We wanted by mac address KS> CC> bandwidth management I mean people can change ips or spoof ip's easier KS> than KS> CC> mac's, and also we wanted to be able to do more in depth filtering of KS> the KS> CC> bandwidth for a client like 512/128 for everything except smtp and KS> pop3 KS> CC> which would be unlimited. But this isn't available? Also What happened KS> to KS> CC> what I heard about authorization redirection Mainly showing users that KS> CC> aren't mac allowed a webpage that states there invalid users or are KS> pirating KS> CC> and should desist or call the office. KS> CC> Chris KS> PS>> Eje any help would be much appreciated or anyone using microtik KS> -- KS> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] KS> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List KS> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe KS> smartBridges <yournickname> KS> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe KS> smartBridges) KS> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
