CC> Yes but how do u prioritize or set rules for PORTS I don't see that or mac
CC> addresses only for ip prioritization / limiting

You need to mangle the ports or the mac then you can based on the flow
mark tag bandwidth limit it. So first mangle with a flow mark (located
under firewall rules) then bandwidth limit/prioritize based on the
flow mark.

CC> as a note the 1100$ is not
CC> the router I mean I cud use the micro router from you or build a microtik
CC> for cheaper than that LOL or just use 2k3 or any other solution mainly the

Sure. Feel free to build a cheaper unit. Nobody is stopping you
besides yourself. Yet another one do it yourselfer that will try to
fix it himself then when it don't work ask for free help.
As for 2k3 wasn't aware that you had bandwidth shaping capabilities in
combination with it's routing capabilities nor that you had available
dynamic routing in there.

CC> microrouter.... the 1100$ is for the amount of radios I would require at
CC> 6.99 to redo my entire clientbase with routers.  (Which at same time I would

Ok. Why should you pay for the clients router ? Not even the telco or
the cable co anywhere that I'm aware of will do that. they might
provide the DSL or cable modem but that is it. If you want multiple
computers online and don't want to pay for additional IPs then you get
a router yourself at your cost. It's your business not mine so you can
do whatever you want but to me it don't sound right.

CC> probably want to switch out my old tele and lucent clients to sb's to get my
CC> network standardized most likely by time I could role this out my new big
CC> pop will be done and also Airpoint XO 1 and 2 will be out so I can get the
CC> network blinging.)

Something wrong with the tele and lucent clients ? If not I wouldn't
even bother. At current point they probably are more stable then most
of the newer sB units that are coming out.
I thought the new sB line was not going to be compatible with the
current sB line ? Am I wrong there ?

CC> More info on the use of queues if possible eje, can you email me off forum
CC> so we don't tie up sb's forum

Since others shown interested to the queues in this forum I'll just
post it to the forum besides I have a question above in regards to sB
so not even off topic.

CC> Chris

CC> -----Original Message-----
CC> From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
CC> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:47 AM
CC> To: Chris Chance

CC> The bandwidth queues are processed in sequence when there is a hit it
CC> will not go further down in the list. So the things you want
CC> prioritize would be set higher in the list.

CC> Best regards,
CC>  Eje Gustafsson                       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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CC>> Eje what was the "overriding" you were talking about what would an
CC> example
CC>> be.

 

CC>> Chris

 

CC>>   _____  

CC>> From: Chris Chance 
CC>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:54 AM
CC>> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

 

CC>> WICKED I'm going to order  few and see how they work would be awesome
CC>> solution to old problem. Does hotspot work in the demo of microtik so I
CC> can
CC>> test that as well (it's the cheaper alternative if I cant get the 1100$
CC> from
CC>> my finance department for the pppoe router solution... do they freeze? I
CC>> used to have problems with some linksys's freezing and stuff like that,
CC> I
CC>> cant afford another problem for my clients having to reset radios before
CC>> adding a router to reset it too much to ask of them.

CC>> Chris 

CC>> -----Original Message----- 
CC>> From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC>> ] 
CC>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 12:47 AM 
CC>> To: Kevin Summers 

CC>> I seen single port routers capable of pppoe that been sold for as 
CC>> little as 6.95 (tigerdirect.com - efficient (siemens) routers). 

CC>> Yes Mikrotik can do pptp however it is not dynamic you have to create 
CC>> a pptp interface for each client and it do not support radius which 
CC>> are two things that are very strong things speaking for pppoe. You 
CC>> know one thing that is kind of funny years back when I looked at doing 
CC>> dsl I did NOT want to do pppoe. If you had asked me I would have said 
CC>> it plainly sucked bulky messy and I would give you every possible 
CC>> excuse not to use it. Today I would never dream about running a 
CC>> 802.11b network without it [pppoe] or some sort of hotspot 
CC>> authentication. Why ? Because 802.11b is to easy to hack into and gain 
CC>> access to and the ONLY way to securely protect you is pppoe or second 
CC>> best hotspot. 

CC>> Best regards, 
CC>>  Eje Gustafsson                       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
CC>> The Family Entertainment Network      http://www.fament.com
CC>> <http://www.fament.com>  
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CC>> -- 
KS>>> RE: [smartBridges] Microtik - EjeIf they are Windows clients, use PPTP
CC>> for 
KS>>> authentication. The same 
KS>>> features are available for bandwidth limiting, and anything that is 
KS>>> Windows 98SE or newer has PPTP support built in. It only works for 
KS>>> single users, but if that is what you have, then you are set. For those

KS>>> that are multiple machines behind a CPE you can get the router and 
KS>>> spend the $9.99 on them. 

KS>>> The "redirect page" feature I think you are referring to is the HotSpot

KS>>> feature. It works very slick and doesn't require any configuration on 
KS>>> the client machine. It also works with multiple clients behind a CPE. 
KS>>> Kevin Summers 
KS>>> KISTech Internet Services Inc. 
KS>>> www.kistech.com 

 

KS>>>   -----Original Message----- 
KS>>>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
KS>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]On Behalf Of Chris Chance 
KS>>>   Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:05 AM 
KS>>>   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
KS>>>   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Microtik - Eje 

 

KS>>>   I know really it's a matter of cost the PPPoE solution is thebest
CC>> along 
KS>>> with using routers at the clients but so far cheapest I have found is
CC>> 9.99 
KS>>> sounds great but its 49.99 with a 40 dollar mail in rebate that's not a

KS>>> possibility considering my bank account doesn't come close to covering
CC>> the 
KS>>> 150 clients that would need the routers rolling trucks isn't even the 
KS>>> problem cause I could get my friends to do it with me. How do I set the

KS>>> queue tree for port's? for the overrides I couldn't find this? Can you
CC>> give 
KS>>> me a basic setup for what I would have to do from a bare 2.7.8 microtik
CC>> box 
KS>>> to get 1 client up at 512/128 with pop and smtp overridden to do
CC>> unlimited 
KS>>> along with the ARP authorization. I would really appreciate it eje,
CC>> things 
KS>>> might just be promising then even though I can't get the redirection
CC>> page to 
KS>>> work that's one feature I wish the microtik had then I could really
CC> pump
CC>> it 
KS>>> are they taking any recommendations ? I mean the webserver is already 
KS>>> implemented on the box so it shouldn't be that hard. 

KS>>>   Chris 

KS>>>   -----Original Message----- 
KS>>>   From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
KS>>>   Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:18 AM 
KS>>>   To: Chris Chance 

KS>>>   Currently you can only set a upload limit based on mac address. 
KS>>>   If you create static arp entries then they will not be able to pass 
KS>>>   any traffic even if they change ips. 

KS>>>   Sounds like from what you want to do you need to setup a queue tree
CC> as

KS>>>   well create some override rules that would allow higher speed on pop3

KS>>>   and smtp. 

KS>>>   If you set the interface to arp reply-only then a unauthorized user 
KS>>>   will not be able to pass any traffic. There is no redirect page but 
KS>>>   then they will not be able to pass any traffic either (which should
CC> be

KS>>>   a good hint). 

KS>>>   If you really want a secure network you should use pppoe then you can

KS>>>   have all automated for you and don't need to worry about users 
KS>>>   changing ips or unathorized users. PPPoE is your friend. 

 

KS>>>   Best regards, 
KS>>>    Eje Gustafsson                       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
KS>>>   The Family Entertainment Network      http://www.fament.com
CC>> <http://www.fament.com>  
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KS>>>   -- 
KS>>>   CC> Eje I'm really considering the microtik for our client bandwidth 
KS>>> management 
KS>>>   CC> until the nexus come out but I have a problem... I got basic
CC>> queues to 
KS>>> work 
KS>>>   CC> by IP although this isn't what we wanted.. We wanted by mac
CC>> address 
KS>>>   CC> bandwidth management I mean people can change ips or spoof ip's
CC>> easier 
KS>>> than 
KS>>>   CC> mac's, and also we wanted to be able to do more in depth
CC> filtering
CC>> of 
KS>>> the 
KS>>>   CC> bandwidth for a client like 512/128 for everything except smtp
CC> and

KS>>> pop3 
KS>>>   CC> which would be unlimited. But this isn't available? Also What
CC>> happened 
KS>>> to 
KS>>>   CC> what I heard about authorization redirection Mainly showing users
CC>> that 
KS>>>   CC> aren't mac allowed a webpage that states there invalid users or
CC>> are 
KS>>> pirating 
KS>>>   CC> and should desist or call the office. 

 

KS>>>   CC> Chris 

 

KS>>>   PS>> Eje any help would be much appreciated or anyone using microtik 

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