Yeah, you're right, the firmware upgrade DOES suck . . . I saw it all coming way back when the units were first failing. Probably some bean counter manager at SB ix' nayed any talk of a recall, the engineers, just trying to hold onto their jobs came up with the firmware band-aid idea, which I'm sure pleased the bean counters to no end. I feel like a powerless kid in a dysfunctional family. Can't get out of the house (yet). Powerless to get the parents (SB) to think clearly and be honest about their sins. It's like a bad B movie. <groan>
BB AI ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB > This goes back to my question a while back. What exactly did the > "firmware fix" do?? Did it slow down the processor, to reduce the heat > related issue, thereby increasing the lost association problem on older > "good" units? > > Remember...they did initially tell us NOT to load this firmware on units > that weren't exhibiting the symptoms. > > FLASHBACK: Let's say you are 60 clicks inside IRAQ with SCUDS whizzing > over your head and your second in command (good buddy) is showing signs > of Nerve Agent. You make a command decision to jam him in the thigh > with his atropine injector antidote and it is (seconds) later determined > that it was just a nervous breakdown (or whatever). DEAD.... > ****sigh***** > > Whoa...where'd that come from..... > > In other words, without the opposing force, you push it back too far. > > I think the firmware upgrade SUCKS! Just my opinion. > > Sully > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB > > Has anyone tried any new units with "bad chips" with old firmware > simplemonitor 1.40? > > I have two "old" units that came with 1.4 (purchased Feb 2003). Access > point mode worked fine. Then I used them as wireless bridges for months. > > I upgraded to 1.5 and switched back to access point mode on one unit > (client bridge on the other). The ethernet started having the problem of > crapping out on me. I then upgraded to 1.6. Same problem. I confirmed > the units still worked in wireless bridge mode - no issues. I used a new > aP Total to test out as an access point using 1.6, with both aPPOs as > clients with 1.6, and the problem went away, so I have isolated the > problem to these two old aPPOs in access point mode using upgraded > firmware. > > What I suspect is that they will work again with the old 1.40 > simplemonitor firmware in access point mode. Unfortunately, I am not > going to try because I have reached the breaking point, and finally > settled on a PtMP setup that I can't bring down for any more > diagnostics. It has cost me too much time and money, and I am stable > now. > > I would be very curious to find out if the new units (that presumably > shipped with 1.5, then were upgraded to 1.6) would work with 1.4. Has > anyone even tried this? Why would my "old" units work with 1.4, then not > with 1.5 or 1.6? > > Jason > > P.S. I guess you'd call my current state of mind "Curious Indifference" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Bounds > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:22 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB > > > > > > Gloria, > > > > I'm going up on a roof right now to replace an APPO that > > crapped out (read: won't pass traffic) after being up just > > two weeks. I'm not hopeful however, because my only spare > > came from the same batch. It too, will likely behave the same. > > > > SB, you really screwed the pooch on this one by not recalling > > the entire run of bad units. Gloria, the problem is the radios. > > > > Bobby Bounds > > Airwave Internet, LLC > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB > > > > > > > Can you tell me where to find the list of MAC addresses > > that are being > > > recalled? I am working on my RMAs now and I have a feeling > > that all > > > five > > of > > > the units I have are from the same batch. When I asked > > them how many > > > of > > my > > > units to RMA, they said it was up to me and my "comfort level". I > > > don't want to bash SB either - it is counter productive, > > and they are > > > being very supportive in trying to help. But at the same time, I > > > agree with you that it would have been more cost effective to have > > > just recalled and replaced all the units that were suspect > > and saved > > > themselves a lot of bad > > publicity > > > and us a lot of lost revenue. > > > > > > I have had it pointed out to me from several different > > sources on this > > list > > > that the problem is more than likely not with the > > airPoints, that is > > > probably a power issue or an environmental issue. I am not ruling > > > that > > out > > > completely, and am continuing to investigate all > > possibilities. But > > > if it were something that we did wrong in our design and > > installation, > > > why is my Trango backhaul working perfectly using the same power > > > source, the same cabling, the same switch, in the same temperature > > > environment? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gloria > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:47 PM > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling a bit guilty for hammering sB so badly...but it is > > > > there fault after all. They could have resolved this a long time > > > > ago. > > > > > > > > Here is the explanation as given to me from them (simplified > > > > version): In June there were 2 production lines putting > > together sB > > > > equipment. One with bad chips, one with good chips. My > > use of "bad > > > > chips" is my own. They call it "timing issue" chips. > > > > > > > > Prior to getting stamped with MAC addresses, the units > > are brought > > > > back together on one line and stamped. Therefore, there > > is NO way > > > > to say exactly which units have the "bad chips". > > > > > > > > This is why sB is not recalling the entire series of MAC > > > > addresses...there are a bunch of good ones mixed in there as well. > > > > > > > > You may be thinking the same thing I am right now....hmmmm....why > > > > wouldn't they just go ahead and recall the whole batch?? > > Hindsight, > > > > they would probably have saved a lot of money in lost > > revenue from > > > > the bad publicity. And it would have MOST definitely > > saved us a TON > > > > of money, and therefore retained their good reputation from us. > > > > > > > > Bottomline: They are doing direct RMA's for all the bad > > June/July > > > > units. Just talk to them. We are all bitching for good > > > > reason...but just do the RMA. It is all we can do. Then > > hope they > > > > are really sending us good stuff this time. > > > > > > > > Sully > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > unsubscribe > > > smartBridges) > > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
