Re: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector

[Billy Huddleston]

How much would you loose on a 3 way spliiter?   ----- Original Message ----- From: donaldbeckman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:32 AM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector 3db loss is 1/2 signal, ie, 20dbm is 100mw, while 23dbm is 200mw. The 3db loss basically says each antenna gets half power (signal devided in half). The 3db insersion is just a way for the manufacture to say the signal is balanced on both sides of the T. I have a 1 to 2 T that allows one side to get 1.5 x the power the other side gets, this is an unbalanced T, and the manufacture notes that by showing 1.7db loss on one port, and 2.2db loss on the other port. (the losses are never perfect on unbalanced splitters) 19db gain is twice as much power as 16db gain. The power on the decibel scale is not linier, its logarithmic Donald Beckman Fort Worth, Texas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Haynes Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector An RF splitter does not divide the signal to the antennas. Each antenna gets full power with the exception of insertion loss. So a splitter with 3dB insertion loss driving two antennas from a 17.5dB source sends 14.5dB to each antenna. This is my understanding anyway. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector Question, what happens when you plug in a 19db grid..  Does it sence the antenna and turn the 13 off? or does it act just like a splitter only giving me half the power to the grid and the 13 is still on? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Nimesh D. Parikh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector I guess you guys harassed us enough about the bright LEDs. So for aPXO there is a SNMP command to turn them on/off. So you can keep them off during normal operation and turn them on while debugging. Nimesh -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Chance Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:07 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector Nimesh what about the TOTAL's not the ap side the client side. For aligning the antennas I mean a new versions being designed right? With nconnector and whatever other "cosmetic" changes why not something similar even if just led's since SB loves those "pimp" led's that set it ahead of the rest J From: Nimesh D. Parikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector Ok Sully, this time I will forward your rant also J The tone has been incorporated in Nexus. Tone can give many more levels of indication than the LED display. I think the confusion comes because many people are mixing up the recently announced XO series with Nexus. Nexus is due out in Q1 2004. Nimesh -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of The Wirefree Network Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector No need to forward this suggestion...it was forwarded about 11 months ago by me....and also 9 months ago by me....and once again 6 months ago by me. Every time it was "forwarded for development"...back burner style. I was told that a beep tone was going to be incorporated, and then told that they were looking at some sort of LED display.  Either way, it sure would help with doing "better than ROUGH "alignment of the antenna. Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Seeni Mohamed Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector Hi Brian, Yes, it is a good suggestion to determine the RSSI level from the device itself. Your suggestion has been forwarded to our development team for the future implemention. Thank you Best regards, Seeni sB Tech support [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian McWilliams Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector An idea for improvement I have would be to integrate a bar-graph led system next to the other indicator lights showing RSSI level. Would be a great help on antenna alignment. Thanks, Brian McWilliams Senior Wireless Administrator - A Wireless Gateway http://www.awirelessgatweay.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 314-997-0300 x 2405 From: Nimesh D. Parikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector Thanks for questioning. I think the plan is to ship with a weatherproof cap in place. You will have to remove it to use the N connector. Nimesh -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of The Wirefree Network Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [smartBridges] aBT w/N connector I have to ask this now...in case it was overlooked.....but, how do you plan to waterproof the N connector should it NOT be used? Just the regular push on plastic dust cap wont do it. Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative ohh ok, the new ABT will have the integrated antennna and a n connector... I tought it wuold only have the n connector, hences the question... Gino -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nimesh D. Parikh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 6:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative I think there is some confusion. We have only the aBT product for which the price reduction is being applied. The same product will soon have the N connector and the Surge protection/grounding circuit. The changes are currently being introduced in the factory and the lab is doing the new FCC certification tests. So you will start seeing these units as soon as the stock depletes in the distribution channel.  With the price reduction now there is only about $14 difference with aBO. So an excellent value for getting an integrated 13db antenna. For most installs this built-in antenna will be sufficient. For a few challenging installs you may need an external antenna that can be connected to the N connector. This kind of flexibility makes it easier on stocking and allows you guys to standardize on one model. Hope this will help with your deployments. Nimesh smartBridges -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative whats the diff. between the ABOT and a ABT with n connector? Gino -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative It looks like we will be getting around a $40.00 reduction on the ABT price and if I am hearing right a $100.00 reduction on the ABOT. Soon I hear the ABT units will have N connectors. I guess it will meen less units we have to stock. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Nimesh D. Parikh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative Sorry. No changes in single units price. But for larger quantities you may be able to get a better deal. Nimesh -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative ABI too? Gino -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nimesh D. Parikh Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative Yes there is a price drop for aBT. Actually quite a substantial one for this product. We had some confusion about the new pricing with our distribution partners. This has been clarified now and you will begin to see the difference in the coming days. Nimesh smartBridges -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Chance Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:47 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative Can we expect a price drop on the ABT's I hope so would make fighting my competition A LOT EASIER I mean a 50$ or 25$ drop would really give me and I feel others that use the product the edge to win. But right now im equal with competitors :( Chris PS: Havent seen any drops yet. -----Original Message----- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative Well that may be from the USA to the UK. But that gear comes from Asia someplace and it shouldn't cost more to get to the UK from Asia. George Blazen Wireless wrote: > It may cost them a bundle to ship into your country I have shipped stuff to > the UK and on average my sales were about $350 us Dollars and on that the > customs would tax on $30-$40 US dollars! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:05 AM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative > > > What kind of Price reductions are these going to be?  We pay �175 +17.5% VAT > = ~ $340 for ABO's- Which seems to suggest we are getting ripped off > something awful and that pricing is not equal across countries? We phoned > one of the UK distribs and they said pricing changes only on the AirPoint > Pro - which I hope is not true. > > Thanks > > Colin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative > > > >>Dude, I could only dream. >> >>Dennis >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:56 PM >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] smartBridges launches New Price Initiative >> >> >> >>>What kind of price reduction? 5-10-50%??? Right now we get ABO from > > Ecomm > >>at >> >>>$239 what should we be seeing now? $150?? HEHEHE >>> >>> >>>This is great news either way... >>> >>>Quoting sB Tech Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> >>>>smartBridges' commitment to bring high performance, carrier-class >>>>wireless products continues with the recent launch of its airPoint XO >>>>series of professional Access Points.  To coincide with the launch of >>>>the airPoint XO series, smartBridges has also announced substantial >>>>price reductions across its product line.  This reduction is in line >>>>with smartBridges' vision of expanding the reach of its carrier class >>>>WWAN solutions through competitive offerings. >>>> >>>>The recently launched airPoint XO products address four key areas that >>>>are of vital importance in any WWAN network: Subscriber Bandwidth >>>>Management, Advanced Networking Capabilities, Remote Infrastructure >>>>Management and Carrier-Class Reliability.  This series of access > > points > >>>>is ideal for deploying large WISP networks and Public Access Hotspots. >>>>For more details please visit >>>>http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/xo_series.php >>>> >>>>The smartBridges Price Initiative is aimed at making WWAN economics >>>>attractive so as to provide Wireless ISPs (WISPs) the unique > > capability > >>>>to manage and expand wireless networks profitably.  With remote >>>>management features, carrier class protection and standards > > compliance, > >>>>smartBridges products are now even more competitive from a >>>>price-performance perspective.  Please contact your nearest >>>><http://www.smartbridges.com/new/products/locator.php>  smartBridges >>>>distributor for more details on the latest smartBridges Price >>>>Initiative. >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>smartBridges Global Marketing >>>> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>Martin Moreno >>>Blazen Wireless >>>909-907-4106 >>>www.blazenwireless.com >>>----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- >>>Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV >>>http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm >>> >>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe >> >>smartBridges <yournickname> >> >>>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe >> >>smartBridges) >> >>>Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >>----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- >>Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV >>http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm >> >>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List >>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> > >>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > > smartBridges) > >>Archives: http://archives.part-15.org >> >> > > > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org  ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org