That should help. :-) Kevin Summers KISTech Internet Services Inc. www.kistech.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 5:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > I ran ethereal and I was getting tons of arps until I finally turned the > firewall on in the router for the T-1 now I see maybe 40 arps in 2 mins > where I hade over 3000+ in 2 mins before.. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:54 AM > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > I haven't tried that one yet. I got hooked on MikroTik. > > I'm not sure what would cause one heavy downloader to > stop all the other clients. Hidden node I suppose would > do it. The only time I've ever seen anyone bring the > network down was when they plugged their wireless radio > into a hub instead of a router and their entire network > started broadcasting like crazy. What's worse is he was > doing VPN into work and exposing his work to the outside > through us. > > Kevin Summers > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > www.kistech.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:22 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > www.demarctech.com I am using Tony's Brilan software at the noc > on a extra > > machine > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:16 AM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > What are you using to limit their bandwidth? > > > > Kevin Summers > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > www.kistech.com > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Moreno > > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 5:45 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > no we offer 3 speeds 386, 768 and 900 kbps down and 256kbps up.. > > > > > > Customers are lucky to get dialup speeds when a download is > > going on or a > > > couple people are downloading.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Derek Breiland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > If you are experiencing problems during heavy traffic > > > especially downloads > > > > I > > > > still tend to go back to the auto fall back. Turn it off > and see what > > > > happens. The faster speed may work fine for browsing but > > > downloads may go > > > > down the tubes. Those are the same symptoms I had seen. I > > > seen that with > > > > 1 > > > > client during my testing phase with no customers at all. > > 2Mps is still > > > > plenty fast. What are you offering to customers for speed? > > Not over 2 > > > > Mps? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:33 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > No thats the strange part it rarely is related to a lot of > > > traffic? Most > > > > the > > > > > time its one or two users downloading. I am finding that I > > am changing > > > > channels > > > > > at least once a week to get around what I think is interference or > > > > possibly > > > > > someone screwing with me. > > > > > > > > > > Thats one of the main reasons why I am thinking of switching > > > to all 5.7 > > > > gear! > > > > > > > > > > I have never had any problems with speed or interference from > > > the NOC to > > > > the > > > > > AP's which the BH is 5.7 canopy gear other then the 20 ms latency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Derek Breiland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > Is the difference between night and morning the difference > > > in traffic. > > > > > > More > > > > > > users on at night? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 9:06 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems that at night it gets worse for me right now I > > > switched back to > > > > 5.5 > > > > > > > and 11 meg and I lost about 10 customers on one APPO and > > > they would > > > > not > > > > > > re > > > > > > > associate. Turned back on the 1 and 2 meg and they all > > came back. > > > > When > > > > > > this > > > > > > > morning they could connect just fine?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Derek Breiland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 6:06 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disabling auto fallback may not be a bad idea. It has > > worked well > > > > for > > > > > > > stabilizing the link especially under heavy load. A > > > perfomace test > > > > doing > > > > > > > both the text and image (www.toast.net) is a good way > > to generate > > > > > > traffic. > > > > > > > It has actually broken the link in some cases. By > > disabling Auto > > > > > > fallback > > > > > > > and disallowing a link speed greater than 2Mps fixed that > > > particular > > > > > > issue. > > > > > > > The other advantage of slowing the radios down is > > essentially the > > > > > > ability > > > > > > > to handle additional radios. 30 radios at 11Mps each > > > connecting to a > > > > > > 11Mps > > > > > > > creates a lot of 11Mps connections for an 11Mps device > > to handle. > > > > That > > > > > > is > > > > > > > the way I see it anyways. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:47 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well just recently I set them (APPO's) to 5.5 and 11 > > > meg thats it > > > > with > > > > > > > > outfall back set to enabled > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Breiland, Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:41 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious if what speed you are letting the radios > > run at? I > > > > have > > > > > > > turned > > > > > > > > off auto select fall back on both the APO's and the clients > > > > (AirBridge) > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > basic settings. I only check the 1Mps and 2Mps boxes > > > in the basic > > > > > > > settings > > > > > > > > on the APO. I am setting all of the clients to > > connect at 2Mps > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > plenty fast - no degradation with that. This has > increased the > > > > > > stability > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > all links considerably especially when a client is > > > doing something > > > > very > > > > > > > > bandwidth intensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:07 PM > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have over 30 customers each on two APPOs which seem > > > to handle it > > > > just > > > > > > > > fine (that is, when the APPO is still running.) The > > > only problem I > > > > have > > > > > > > > seen is sometimes the APPO just stops, and the blue > > light starts > > > > > > blinking > > > > > > > > steadily off and on, off and on, and I'm unable to > > log into the > > > > device > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > further, even through the wire. But I've gotten to the > > > point when > > > > that > > > > > > > > happens I put up another one. (Tired of troubleshooting > > > them.) The > > > > only > > > > > > > > problem is reassociating everyone (Not all of my > > > customers have the > > > > > > > > roaming option.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyhow, they seem to handle at least 30 users > without problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, > > > > > > > > Blazen Wireless wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the APPO goes into a D-link switch with another APPO > > > and a canopy > > > > > > radio > > > > > > > > > which is set to 10 1/2 duplex. The canopy is flawless > > > and has no > > > > > > errors > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > all! its always the APPO that comes back with > errors? I see > > > > dingle > > > > > > defer > > > > > > > > > errors and an occasion CTS error I tried swapping the > > > switch to a > > > > 10 > > > > > > meg > > > > > > > > hub > > > > > > > > > and it made no difference I just think the APPOs cant > > > handle the > > > > load > > > > > > of > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > customers on all the time it just craps out.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each customer that I add on seems to make the system > > > ore and more > > > > > > > > unstable! > > > > > > > > > I was under the impression these radios would > > handle a lot of > > > > clients > > > > > > > > radios > > > > > > > > > talking to it but I guess now. I am going to have > to go with > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > else.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The XO is way out of range, I have all the bandwidth > > > and access > > > > > > control > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > need at the NOC no need for it in the radio.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "Lars Gaarden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:22 AM > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Length out of range numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blazen Wireless wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What exactly is controlling this number is this > > > > > > > > > > good or bad? I assume bad I rebooted the appo > > > > > > > > > > yesterday and am seeing these since about 12pm > > > > > > > > > > PT yesterday to the tune of about 23,500? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LengthOutOfRangeRx is one of the ethernet counters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Cisco, the meaning is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Length out of range > > > > > > > > > Incremented for each frame received where the 802.3 > > > > > > > > > length field in the packet did not match the number > > > > > > > > > of bytes actually received." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is connected to the aPPO on the ethernet side? > > > > > > > > > Do you see any other ethernet error counters that are > > > > > > > > > unusually high? 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