Thanks for that list Keith (http://eng.joyent.com/manufacturing). For
everyone who hasn't read it yet I do recommend you to do so.
I'm guessing joyent has gone through a huge amount of different vendors
before deciding on these documented part numbers.

What I notice though is that joyent doesnt seem to use any L2ARC ssd's. Is
this true ? And if so, why?
My guess is that all their systems always have enough ram to make any L2ARC
negligible and therefore unnecessary.

Please correct me if I am wrong and especially if joyent does use l2arc
SSD's.


On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Keith Wesolowski via smartos-discuss <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 07:55:25AM -0400, Steven McDowall via
> smartos-discuss wrote:
>
> > I am curious as to why having 2 different drives (for SLOG and for
> L2ARC) is a good idea? I've been reading the series
> >
> >
> https://pthree.org/2012/12/07/zfs-administration-part-iv-the-adjustable-replacement-cache/
>
> I'd be skeptical of ZFS advice from someone who doesn't know that the
> ARC is the *adaptive* replacement cache, especially since even Wikipedia
> knows that.
>
> The short answer is that the two workloads are markedly different, and
> SSDs are designed and marketed for different workloads.  You can pretty
> well buy disk "by the litre" today, but that's not at all the case with
> SSDs.
>
> To the original question, the parts we use at Joyent can always be found
> at http://eng.joyent.com/manufacturing.  Those are the ones with which
> we have direct experience and in which we have the most confidence.  We
> always recommend using our Certified configurations.  Notice that we
> don't use L2ARC; demand for it in JPC has been limited to nonexistent (I
> wonder if you're really sure you need it).
>
> I should also mention that the Mach16 is EOL and HGST/STEC have not come
> out with a replacement for it (Keith's pet peeve #464: vendors who EOL
> good hardware without providing a similar replacement).  As such, you
> may have difficulty sourcing that part.  The S840z is a fine substitute
> for it in the same form factor, and is much faster; however, it's also
> much more expensive.  HGST has unfortunately put me in a situation where
> I am unable to recommend any of their products for use as a slog in the
> same price range as the Mach16.  Unless they come out with something
> great later this year, we'll probably be stuck with the DCS3700.
>
> > And it seems like how A Toponce does it makes sense :  get 2 good
> quality (but not necessarily large) SSDs and partition them into 2 areas:
>  one "fairly" small for the SLOG and the other larger partition for the
> L2ARC ... ??
> >
> > In his case he did 5GB for the SLOG and the rest (45GB) for the Cache ..
> >
> > Seems like a good use of resources?
>
> No, but not only have I already explained why, someone has helpfully
> quoted me doing so!
>
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