its probably past time that i invest effort in the usb3 stack.  sadly my 
current employer has not expressed any interest in that effort. anyone want to 
help subsidize the effort ?

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> On Jul 1, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Dave Finster <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You might find that your better off investing in standard spinning SAS disks 
> but a very good SLOG like the HGST SSD800MH.B, which cost around $800 AUD. 
> The reason being that in a well built SmartOS box, you’ll have ZFS ARC 
> occupying RAM from which a good portion of your database reads should be 
> sourced from and when sync writes do need to be done, the SLOG will help make 
> them more performant. ARC makes read performance exceptional for a cache hit. 
> As for zpool layout, for database workloads your better off with a multi-way 
> mirror (i.e. a pool full of mirror vdevs) as when there is an ARC miss it 
> should be performant (at least won’t incur parity penalties in RAIDZ). 
> 
> The only things to watch out for if your acquiring new hardware is NIC, HBA 
> and USB compatibility. The best NICs you can have for SmartOS are Intel based 
> ones (be they integrated onto the motherboard or as an add-in card), I’ve not 
> had any issues at all with LSI (now Avago) HBA cards whereas on-board 
> SATA/SAS can be hit and miss unless they are also LSI based (but can be 
> painful to reflesh if needed). The USB compatibility aspect is becoming more 
> important as Illumos doesn’t yet have an appropriate driver which can cause 
> boot issues and rules out keyboard interactions - some boards have the 
> ability to emulate USB2, but some work and some don’t. 
> 
>> On 2 Jul 2016, at 8:45 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> the vendor stated this:
>> 
>> "Believe me, my programmers all were extremely frustrated when Linux and 
>> Sybase ADS were unreliable."
>> 
>> i hope that was badly worded; though linux has never been the most reliable 
>> of the unix-like systems, i believe it's on a whole different level from any 
>> version of windows. i was once an MCSE but defected (back) to *nix because i 
>> wanted to get real work done instead of fighting the operating system and 
>> related products.
>> 
>> thanks for the suggestions thus far - all good stuff, and i really 
>> appreciate the insight and recommendations. i didn't realize joyent provided 
>> virtio drivers - i've been using the ones from fedora for several years on 
>> the windows terminal server (sitting on joyent_20140221T042147Z).
>> 
>> i have often wondered about running an all-ssd zones pool. the devs all 
>> poo-poo the use of consumer-grade disks, and sata in general. and they have 
>> made great cases for doing so. but for most of my uses, the price and 
>> potential performance looks extremely attractive. i don't usually have the 
>> ability to drop a couple of thousand dollars into a disk subsystem for these 
>> small installations. the customers typically already have enough hardware to 
>> run everything bare-metal, but i've tried hard to virtualize everything for 
>> the many benefits provided by doing so (plus of course the ones specific to 
>> using smartos/zfs).
>> 
>> ----- On Jul 1, 2016, at 3:23 PM, Humberto Ramirez <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Ideally it should sit on a SmartOS zone but... I understand he wants to run 
>> the database on top of NTFS...(Vendor requirement) however Sybase ADS its 
>> also available for linux. 
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2016 2:56 PM, "Joerg Sonnenberger" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 11:15:21AM -0400, Humberto Ramirez wrote:
>>> > - Set "compression": "lz4"     "block_size": 131072   (This one can
>>> > only be set at creation)
>>> 
>>> I would be careful with setting compression, since it can easily be a
>>> waste of time, depending on the database.
>>> 
>>> Joerg
>>> 
>>> 
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