Hello. On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 20:05, Didier Ptitjes wrote: > > Stefan Schmidt wrote: >> I changed the normal dine on saturday to the catchy name "Future of an Open >> Phone - Diner". > > >> Question we like to discuss there are less in the area of middleware and >> application, the whole conf is about it, but about openess of mobile phones >> on a >> hardware/kernel/business level. >> >> What does Openmoko offer us? What alternatives are available? For which >> phones >> there are reverse-engineering projects out there? What is the status of them? >> Does they make sense? Any other vendor coming out with open phones? Develop a >> new one? > > Strangely, this is the kind of things I would have liked to discuss more > extensively during the saturday afternoon.
No problem for me. > You must understand that I don't think coding in an afternoon. I don't > like coding run because most of the time this lead to things to rewrite. > I would be ok for collaborative design, but I'm quite sure I won't code > anything. > > In fact, I code enough during the year and having the opportunity to > meet you all I don't want to be in front of my screen. As I understood > it, Ainulindale may be of my opinion. The workshop I like to see there are also not about doing monkey work coding. I was thinking about working in a group on some ideas which often would include some coding for demo purpose, etc. > Hardware workshoping is ok for me because hardware moding needs to be > made along to competent people and this is the opportunity. I'm wondering how much hardware workshops we will really have. Buzz fixing is more a offer then a real workshop. Y-Cable would be one. Anything else? > In place of coding, I would have been glad if we could have some > discussions or collaborative design. Yeah, that is the same here. We should use the time we spent together wisely. That brings me to the program. Do we have someone volunteering getting some speakers and a schedule up? No need to plan every detail, but one person in charge for the coordination would be good imho. >> This and more is likely to be discussed. Location is unknown yet. Depending >> on >> the number of interested people we should search for a suiting location. > > Do you mean a restaurant ? Really I would have tought we would do a > barbecue friendshiply and surely we would talk of the future of an open > phone (as we may do all the weekend) but also of other things but > without any formality, thus not in group, but enabling people moving > from one to another. Restaurant is not a must. Barbecue would be nice if the weather is good. What I like to see is a date and place where the people could sit together and talk about it. Not between two other chats, peopling singing, people come and go every minute and you have to repeat things, etc. I truly believe that you need some sort of good setting around you to get something done. Personally I hope we get some things sorted out this weekend and plan for the future. I would be sad when everything we got done was to know the faces of the other people and drunk beer. But hey, I know other people often feel that I make things overcomplicate and overplan stuff. I can step back, it's not easy but also not a big deal. regards Stefan Schmidt _______________________________________________ smartphones-standards mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/smartphones-standards
