Ok, this is getting really off topic but...

Jordan Brown (Sun) wrote:

> Rainer Heilke wrote:
>
>> This analogy breaks down fairly quickly when you look at the 
>> audience, though. How many Windows admins do you know that develop 
>> their own services, for example? Yet, this is the kind of "get your 
>> hands dirty in the code" administrator that we (speaking at least for 
>> myself) are talking about.
>
>
> ... which is precisely why UNIX, which had GUIs in 1984, lost out to 
> Windows, because it always catered to developers rather than to 
> average Joes.


Do you really believe it was this simple?


> If UNIX is to maintain viability, it _must_ present a reasonably safe 
> and easy to use interface to the 99%+ of the population that doesn't 
> want to get their hands dirty.


So we need to provide an easy interface for them to use - I agree.


> System administrators are *not* the market.  System administrators are 
> an unpleasant burden that the real customers, the business people, 
> must pay for because they don't have any choice.


I disagree with this.


> Every year, our chums in Redmond make Windows a bit more solid and a 
> bit more powerful, and every year there are a few sites that decide 
> that they can survive on fewer administrators, less experienced 
> administrators, or even no formal administrators at all.  If we keep 
> catering to the dirty-hands crowd at the expense of the people who pay 
> the bills, we will shrink to a hobbyist niche.  Bet on it.


Presenting an easy to use interface through a GUI should
have *no* bearing on what happens on the command line.

Darren


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