I'm coming to the conclusion that it may be a computer for people who
don't like computers. You know the kind - they do a bit of e-mail and
web browsing, but they're not engaged in any real sense, don't
understand the technology at all and don't really enjoy using it. I
think it could also be surprisingly successful among older people.

Rob
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On 11 June 2010 11:11, Tobio <[email protected]> wrote:
> These are very compelling stories.  I share the sentiments of the
> cycling situation, as i have a macbook pro as my main "do everything"
> computer and while its not too heavy for me, you know its there.  I
> was looking to purchase a macbook air with an SSD to be my travelling
> machine within the next few months, leaving my macbook pro at home
> permanently connected to the monitor.  Reading these case studies now
> has me thinking that an ipad might just meet the needs, be cheaper and
> still have the wow factor.  I'd previously dismissed it on the grounds
> of why would i need one, and had the iphone 4 as the essential
> purchase.  Also i hate faffing around with usb modem dongles on my
> macbook.  I think i will go to the apple store to have a play today.
>
> On Jun 10, 11:38 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> An attempt ...
>>
>> I have an iMac, a G4 12" iBook and an iPod touch and no mobile phone or car.
>>
>> I've used my iBook for taking notes at meetings, reading & preparing 
>> documents on the train, watching films in bed, showing my photos to my Mum 
>> and updating my family history using the superb Reunion when I'm at the 
>> library or with family. Having no car, when walking or cycling I've carried 
>> my iBook along in my rucksack but it's a noticeable weight, especially if 
>> I'm going around town or doing other things beforehand as so many times when 
>> it would have been handy to have it, I don't, because I'm not going to carry 
>> that weight with me just on the off chance it could be handy.
>>
>> Having my iPod touch has been great because I keep London tube maps on it, 
>> French lesson audio files, films and TV progs for long train journeys, the 
>> above mentioned Reunion, record talks and music with a mic I bought and play 
>> games as and when (I have about 3 games on my iMac). One of the bugbears for 
>> me though has been that if I'm out and about I can't update the tube service 
>> line status when I'm in London, can't check on train times, can't use Google 
>> maps if I'm going somewhere completely new or I'm just lost and miss out on 
>> the handy OmniFocus nearby context feature all because I have no internet 
>> connection most of the time as it's WiFi only. I always wanted 'a mobile 
>> phone without the phone and the text'.
>>
>> When Apple announced that the iPad would have a 3G option my eyes lit up! 
>> Because it's so light I now slip it in my rucksack as a matter of course. It 
>> has 3G so all that online stuff I mentioned above is now available to me if 
>> I need it - even, as I discovered recently, in a campsite in North Wales! 
>> Because of the larger screen I can now read PDFs easily which are a real 
>> effort or else completely impractical on my iPod. My Mum will really 
>> enjoying seeing my photos as the screen is much bigger than my iPod and much 
>> better than my iBook and viewing those films on the train will be a much 
>> better experience. The Shakespeare app on the iPad is a real delight 
>> compared to my iPod as of course are all the free books I've now loaded on. 
>> Google street view on the iPad is extraordinary though I've no use for it at 
>> present.
>>
>> I have no digital radio and even if I did I couldn't listen to FIP on it. 
>> The speaker in the iPad is hardly up to that of a good portable radio, but 
>> it's WAY better than the iPod and now means that I can stream FIP to my iPad 
>> in the kitchen and listen whilst cooking or washing up. Nice.
>>
>> These are all practical reasons but there is the other big reason - the iPad 
>> is just a delight to use. If any of you are motorcyclists you will 
>> understand the difference between the large movements of steering wheel and 
>> gears on a car compared with an almost imperceptible lean and a flick of the 
>> toes to do the same thing on a motorcycle. I've always found it a more 
>> 'mental' than 'physical' relationship that is an essential part of the 
>> appeal of a motorcycle. Robert Pirsig says in the amazing book 'Zen and the 
>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' - "The difference between driving a car and 
>> riding a motorcycle is that in a car you're watching the film and on a 
>> motorcycle you are in the film". This is my long way of saying that using a 
>> screen a foot away and a mechanical keyboard and a mouse compared to 
>> touching, flicking and swiping on the screen of an iPad is a parallel. On 
>> the motorbike, the gap between the machine and rider is much reduced 
>> compared with a car and I feel that the same is true of the 'normal' 
>> computer and the iPad.
>>
>> I now sit on the sofa an read my RSS feeds using The Early Edition in 
>> preference to using my Mac to read them and the same goes for Safari, though 
>> I'm an OmniWeb user so it's not really the same, but for all that I enjoy 
>> the experience of the web more on the iPad.
>>
>> The big downer at present is one thing that I still need my iBook for is 
>> Garageband. If I could record sound/MIDI on my iPad, lay down those tracks 
>> and have them played back as I'm recording another then I'd be totally 
>> sorted. The MIDI recording is now available as is the mic, but that workflow 
>> is not. Maybe in a year ...
>>
>> Also, the iPad has only been out for a couple of months. The kind of apps 
>> that could exist on it in a year or two will, I suspect, totally amaze us 
>> because that larger screen and keyboard make all sorts of new apps possible 
>> that would be impossible or tedious on an iPod touch.
>>
>> Also, as I'm developing apps for the iPhone and iPad I need to have a device 
>> to test on. Not a persuasive reason for most though I'll admit!
>>
>> Well, what a load of chat! I hope that adds something to your consideration.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> On 10 Jun 2010, at 00:59, Ray Packham wrote:
>>
>> > I went into the apple store the other day the look at the IPAD , its 
>> > shinny and fantastic but alas I couldn't find a real use for it as I have 
>> > my MacBook. I did think that it would be superb for my elderly parents who 
>> > do not want a computer but would like access to the internet,  its so 
>> > intuitive and simple to use even my mum can pick it up in 5 mins!  I 
>> > wonder if Apple have missed an opportunity  to advertise for so called 
>> > silver surfers who are technophobes, I personally dont think Apple would 
>> > associate themselves with this sort of advertising as it does not fit with 
>> > their young image but I still feel its fantastic for those of the older 
>> > generation who dont want a laptop or tower/desktop simply because as my 
>> > mum has proved its so simple to use even a complete novice can pick it up 
>> > in 5 mins.
>>
>> > Anyhow just as a quick question how does it fit in with your existing kit 
>> > and what do you all use it for ?
>>
>> > Regards Ray
>>
>> "The costs are such that my department is not so much the department of 
>> energy and climate change, as the department of nuclear legacy and bits of 
>> other things," - Chris Hune, June 2010
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