HI All

The replies are really interesting the consensus I think is thats its a 
computer for those who do not want a computer or at least a simplified 
uncluttered one that can be used on the go because of ease of use, my mind is 
gradually seeing the relevance but all this thinking me even more silver haired 
! , now all I have to do is convince the wife ! and if i purchase one see if I 
can get a wife receipt, you know the sort receipt one that shows its £100.00 
cheaper than it actually is, my mate gets one every time for his PC purchases 
Im sure his wife will find out one day but the shop he uses says thye they get 
a lot of requests for wife receipts ! LOL

Regards Ray
On 11 Jun 2010, at 11:11, Tobio wrote:

> These are very compelling stories.  I share the sentiments of the
> cycling situation, as i have a macbook pro as my main "do everything"
> computer and while its not too heavy for me, you know its there.  I
> was looking to purchase a macbook air with an SSD to be my travelling
> machine within the next few months, leaving my macbook pro at home
> permanently connected to the monitor.  Reading these case studies now
> has me thinking that an ipad might just meet the needs, be cheaper and
> still have the wow factor.  I'd previously dismissed it on the grounds
> of why would i need one, and had the iphone 4 as the essential
> purchase.  Also i hate faffing around with usb modem dongles on my
> macbook.  I think i will go to the apple store to have a play today.
> 
> On Jun 10, 11:38 am, [email protected] wrote:
>> An attempt ...
>> 
>> I have an iMac, a G4 12" iBook and an iPod touch and no mobile phone or car.
>> 
>> I've used my iBook for taking notes at meetings, reading & preparing 
>> documents on the train, watching films in bed, showing my photos to my Mum 
>> and updating my family history using the superb Reunion when I'm at the 
>> library or with family. Having no car, when walking or cycling I've carried 
>> my iBook along in my rucksack but it's a noticeable weight, especially if 
>> I'm going around town or doing other things beforehand as so many times when 
>> it would have been handy to have it, I don't, because I'm not going to carry 
>> that weight with me just on the off chance it could be handy.
>> 
>> Having my iPod touch has been great because I keep London tube maps on it, 
>> French lesson audio files, films and TV progs for long train journeys, the 
>> above mentioned Reunion, record talks and music with a mic I bought and play 
>> games as and when (I have about 3 games on my iMac). One of the bugbears for 
>> me though has been that if I'm out and about I can't update the tube service 
>> line status when I'm in London, can't check on train times, can't use Google 
>> maps if I'm going somewhere completely new or I'm just lost and miss out on 
>> the handy OmniFocus nearby context feature all because I have no internet 
>> connection most of the time as it's WiFi only. I always wanted 'a mobile 
>> phone without the phone and the text'.
>> 
>> When Apple announced that the iPad would have a 3G option my eyes lit up! 
>> Because it's so light I now slip it in my rucksack as a matter of course. It 
>> has 3G so all that online stuff I mentioned above is now available to me if 
>> I need it - even, as I discovered recently, in a campsite in North Wales! 
>> Because of the larger screen I can now read PDFs easily which are a real 
>> effort or else completely impractical on my iPod. My Mum will really 
>> enjoying seeing my photos as the screen is much bigger than my iPod and much 
>> better than my iBook and viewing those films on the train will be a much 
>> better experience. The Shakespeare app on the iPad is a real delight 
>> compared to my iPod as of course are all the free books I've now loaded on. 
>> Google street view on the iPad is extraordinary though I've no use for it at 
>> present.
>> 
>> I have no digital radio and even if I did I couldn't listen to FIP on it. 
>> The speaker in the iPad is hardly up to that of a good portable radio, but 
>> it's WAY better than the iPod and now means that I can stream FIP to my iPad 
>> in the kitchen and listen whilst cooking or washing up. Nice.
>> 
>> These are all practical reasons but there is the other big reason - the iPad 
>> is just a delight to use. If any of you are motorcyclists you will 
>> understand the difference between the large movements of steering wheel and 
>> gears on a car compared with an almost imperceptible lean and a flick of the 
>> toes to do the same thing on a motorcycle. I've always found it a more 
>> 'mental' than 'physical' relationship that is an essential part of the 
>> appeal of a motorcycle. Robert Pirsig says in the amazing book 'Zen and the 
>> Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' - "The difference between driving a car and 
>> riding a motorcycle is that in a car you're watching the film and on a 
>> motorcycle you are in the film". This is my long way of saying that using a 
>> screen a foot away and a mechanical keyboard and a mouse compared to 
>> touching, flicking and swiping on the screen of an iPad is a parallel. On 
>> the motorbike, the gap between the machine and rider is much reduced 
>> compared with a car and I feel that the same is true of the 'normal' 
>> computer and the iPad.
>> 
>> I now sit on the sofa an read my RSS feeds using The Early Edition in 
>> preference to using my Mac to read them and the same goes for Safari, though 
>> I'm an OmniWeb user so it's not really the same, but for all that I enjoy 
>> the experience of the web more on the iPad.
>> 
>> The big downer at present is one thing that I still need my iBook for is 
>> Garageband. If I could record sound/MIDI on my iPad, lay down those tracks 
>> and have them played back as I'm recording another then I'd be totally 
>> sorted. The MIDI recording is now available as is the mic, but that workflow 
>> is not. Maybe in a year ...
>> 
>> Also, the iPad has only been out for a couple of months. The kind of apps 
>> that could exist on it in a year or two will, I suspect, totally amaze us 
>> because that larger screen and keyboard make all sorts of new apps possible 
>> that would be impossible or tedious on an iPod touch.
>> 
>> Also, as I'm developing apps for the iPhone and iPad I need to have a device 
>> to test on. Not a persuasive reason for most though I'll admit!
>> 
>> Well, what a load of chat! I hope that adds something to your consideration.
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
>> On 10 Jun 2010, at 00:59, Ray Packham wrote:
>> 
>>> I went into the apple store the other day the look at the IPAD , its shinny 
>>> and fantastic but alas I couldn't find a real use for it as I have my 
>>> MacBook. I did think that it would be superb for my elderly parents who do 
>>> not want a computer but would like access to the internet,  its so 
>>> intuitive and simple to use even my mum can pick it up in 5 mins!  I wonder 
>>> if Apple have missed an opportunity  to advertise for so called silver 
>>> surfers who are technophobes, I personally dont think Apple would associate 
>>> themselves with this sort of advertising as it does not fit with their 
>>> young image but I still feel its fantastic for those of the older 
>>> generation who dont want a laptop or tower/desktop simply because as my mum 
>>> has proved its so simple to use even a complete novice can pick it up in 5 
>>> mins.
>> 
>>> Anyhow just as a quick question how does it fit in with your existing kit 
>>> and what do you all use it for ?
>> 
>>> Regards Ray
>> 
>> "The costs are such that my department is not so much the department of 
>> energy and climate change, as the department of nuclear legacy and bits of 
>> other things," - Chris Hune, June 2010
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