I think you and I were the only people in the world who remembered that. I am positive it hasn't been updated since about 1991 and it functions so differently from just about every other one that its almost misleading to start with it;)
Sorry you picked a dud Ray but the app called Outliner on iPad is not bad. My preferred one is Omnioutliner but you said you didn't want anything very complicated:) Sent from my iPad On 6 Sep 2013, at 20:28, Ranulph Glanville <[email protected]> wrote: > First, Word has a built in outliner. > > I'm not recommending it: I write a very great deal and do not use an > outliner, nor do I use mind mapping software for writing, but the word one is > simple and free, if you have word. There are no overall rules, I think. It > depends on who you are, how and what you are writing. Even when I teach a > class on how to write a dissertation/thesis (no pedantry here) I don't tell > people how to do it. I tell them something of the type of thing that's > available, and how I write, and I ask them about how they write. > > When I do need to organise, what do I use? Index cards. Real physical ones, > though I do sometimes use a sw version on my ipad mini. I use the same > technology for lecturing, too. > > To me scrapple looks better than most mind mapping sw, which is why I > recommended it. It's quick to learn, elegant and flexible. I was, however, > really looking at it for a different fort of job. > > Ranulph > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 Sep 2013, at 18:27, Ray Packham wrote: > >> HI Jason >> >> Its me again I forgot to add I purchased Cloud outliner on your >> recommendation, so if it turns out to be rubbish I will bill ya LOL ;-) >> >> No thanks again for advice and best wishes >> >> Ray >> On 6 Sep 2013, at 17:38, Jason Davies <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 6 Sep 2013, at 17:17, Ray Packham wrote: >>> >>> yes .. its masters level. >>> >>> then I will deploy the pedants' card and say it's a dissertation (thesis is >>> PhD). >>> >>> It's the opposite in the US, helpfully;) >>> >>> So possibly if they mention thesis, they are standardising to that. And >>> spelling sulphur as sulfur… >>> >>> The number of students I have taught at M level…here's the speech about >>> your dissertation. Try to write a one sentence version first even if you >>> are unsure of your conclusion. Then explain a bit more by turning that into >>> a paragraph. That paragraph should hopefully break down into something that >>> can become an outline. Then you start adding sections, and because it's an >>> outline it should become clear what you need as you expand it. Try to >>> expand it fairly evenly. When the outline becomes unwieldy, you are ready >>> to start actually filling in the bits to make it prose and because you >>> already have a plan, it's relatively simple. Turning an outline into RTF or >>> similar is easy with Multimarkdown Composer though I don't like actually >>> typing in it. It opens opml (outliner format) files and then lets you >>> export as rtf, and the outline headers become headings, and the notes >>> become normal text. >>> >>> Get the plan right before you start writing and you will usually go up a >>> grade. >>> >>> And always write down references as you go along, you will not remember >>> where you read everything*. Thus Sente's quote function is handy. >>> >>> I rarely remember where *I wrote something, never mind someone else… >>> >>> Practice using Outliner on something you already understand, to see how it >>> works. You don't want to troubleshoot it while trying to think. Organising >>> your thoughts becomes so much easier when you work out where to put each >>> bit. >>> >>> Finally: never ever try to write the final prose version and think at the >>> same time. Write in notes. Very very few people can think and type at the >>> same time. I touch type 60 wpm (i.e. without thinking) and even I can >>> definitely not think and type at the same time when I'm writing something >>> serious. >>> >>> Good luck;) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Sussex Mac User Group" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/smug. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> This message has been scanned for malware. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Sussex Mac User Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/smug. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Sussex Mac User Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/smug. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sussex Mac User Group" group. 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