>From an admin POV i allowed Derek's post as he's from a fellow MUG. If
anyone wants to discuss it in depth with Derek, please take it off list.

Thanks All
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> That was Jason not Derek ;)
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> On 18 Nov 2014, at 19:19, ethical.peter <[email protected]>
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>  Point taken Derek!
>
> Best, Peter
>
> On 18/11/2014 19:13, Jason Davies wrote:
>
> I think you replied to the wrong message;)
>
> You have no idea how much complication I saved you all from on this front.
> The simplistic version is this: many other MUG leaders think there is a
> kind of formula which involves meeting up regularly and having promotional
> talks etc (I went to a couple for LMUG before i left that asylum). This
> also requires membership validation for eg entry and discounts, which are
> usually not amazing. This requires membership fees, say a fiver a year,
> which creates enormous administrative overload for very little gain in my
> view.
>
> Seeing as this followed the migration to google groups, which was not easy
> and flummoxed plenty of people (including me), when this came round I said
> 'no thanks, we're good'. Which led to a lot of emails with
> people-who-clearly-have-too-much-time-on-their-hands saying we *ought* to
> have this and that, because that's what they do. In the end (confession
> time, no-one knew this outside that circle!) I threatened to form a
> breakaway MUG as they are to all intents and purposes a self-designated
> category these days... and they backed down. Apple does not play much of a
> role in these groups and seems not to care about us, not answering emails
> etc (which is fine by me). But they don't interfere either, and we are on a
> list *somewhere* of official groups.
>
> I stress all this this was because a) the attempts to have people meet up
> here generally don't get that far b) collecting a token amount to create a
> category of 'paid-up member' seemed an astonishing amount of work for about
> 200 people which I couldn't undertake.
>
> But mainly it was 'this is a great list, don't mess with it'.
>
> I'm no longer the admin but the line was always if people want to meet, go
> ahead and organise it here on the list;) I assume it hasn't changed much (I
> await the moderator's verdict)
>
> On 18 Nov 2014, at 18:54, ethical.peter wrote:
>
> I didn't know there was a physical aspect to this group?? Please do
> enlighten me Derek!
>
> Best, Peter
>
> On 15/11/2014 20:44, Derek Wright wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link
>
> On Friday, November 7, 2014 2:21:03 PM UTC, Paul Owen wrote:
>
> All is explained in this rather useful article:
>
> <http://tidbits.com/article/15216 <http://tidbits.com/article/15216>
> <http://tidbits.com/article/15216>>
>
> Paul Owen
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