Thanks both. An impressive take there Ben! :-)

When I coin the perfect word I'll let you know ...

Stephen

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> On 17 Aug 2016, at 19:25, 'Sam - MacAmbulance' via Sussex Mac User Group 
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> How about post-skeoumorphic if the icon relates to an outdated real-world 
> representation of a computer element.
> 
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> On 17 Aug 2016, at 19:17, Ben Rubinstein <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> With all respect to Gilly's grandson, that's not quite right.  At least, the 
> term may have evolved to have that meaning in Sydney, but that's not how it's 
> used by user experience practitioners / interface designers here.
> 
> At least in the UK/US, affordance refers to the perceivable properties of an 
> element, especially with respect to the actions you can take with it. (The 
> term is corrupted from use in other disciplines - it should really be 
> "perceived affordance" or similar - but I won't go into that.)
> 
> So the icon of a floppy disk is an affordance only to the extent that we've 
> all been trained to recognise that clicking a button with that icon will save 
> our current document (even those too young to have ever used an actual floppy 
> disk). But the term applies equally well to any other clear and obvious 
> control, even if it doesn't implicitly refer to something very old (e.g. 
> airplane icon on the button to select airplane mode) or indeed refer to 
> something concrete at all (e.g. the reload icon of a circular arrow). Or 
> indeed to a button with the word "Save" on it.
> 
> I don't know if there is a word with the meaning that Stephen actually wanted 
> - an opportunity to coin one!  The nearest I can think of is "anachronistic", 
> but that's not quite right - there's nothing wrong with these icons, it's 
> just that their derivation relates to something historic.
> 
> Let us know what you come up with....
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15/08/2016 09:50, Gillian Snoxall wrote:
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> I put your question to my grandson (who was an Apple Genius in Sydney), and 
>> he immediately came up with “affordance” as the word you are looking for. 
>> Sounds crazy to me, but he insists that that is the technical term to 
>> describe the use of icons depicting things that no longer exist, in modern 
>> applications.
>> 
>> Gilly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Aug 2016, at 15:06, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> … describe icons used in modern applications that show items that are 
>>> obsolete or dated and not used for the task in hand?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For example, at work we are quickly phasing out flatbed scanners and very 
>>> strongly encourage people to use phones and tablets to photograph documents 
>>> and send them to us. Our new interface has a “Send document” button which 
>>> shows a flatbed scanner!
>>> 
>>> The latest MS Word (for Windows) has a floppy disc icon to click which 
>>> saves your work. Neither of the two guys I work with have ever seen or used 
>>> a 3.5” floppy disc.
>>> 
>>> The generic icon used for a storage device is frequently a hard disc even 
>>> when the device has Solid State storage.
>>> 
>>> And will the same soon apply to the icon for a camera?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just idle Saturday wondering.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Stephen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Technology is the knack of rearranging the world so that we don't have to 
>>> experience it" - Max Frisch
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