Oh, if she is doing that, then I would say she is alive, but I would hope
she is not suffering.  That's a tough call.

David L.

Ben Franklin:  "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations
become corrupt, they have more need of masters."



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Harder
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:08 AM
To: The Sandbox Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Right to Die



I saw her on FOX news... I am not arguing that she is a vegetable,
but I will argue that she *looked* conscious.  By conscious I mean
able to hold her head up and look around instead of just laying
there.  Is starving to death the best way for her to die?




On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 09:57 AM, Charles wrote:

> I haven't decided on this one.  The woman has been vegetative for 13
> years.
> For all practical purposes she is not alive, and reports I've heard is
> that
> her brain waves are severely deteriorated. The drain on her immediate
> family
> (Husband (children?)) must be enormous not even counting the financial
> drain
> keeping her artificially alive.
>
> I'm looking at it like this, my wife (who according to the laws of the
> state
> of FL is my next of kin) knows my wishes.  If she made the difficult
> decision to cease heroic measures on me I wouldn't want my mother to
> be able
> to step in and make a different decision.  If the extended family wins
> in
> this case, that is the precedent that will be set.
>
> I know for *ME* I don't want to live like that.  Take the tube away.
> If it
> is the only thing keeping me alive, I mean, and I'm not conscious.
> Now if I
> were still conscious and just couldn't eat, then it is a different
> story.
>
>
> Charles Mims
> http://www.the-sandbox.org
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Tim Harder
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:38 AM
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> Subject: [Sndbox] Right to Die
>
>
> Has anyone been paying attention to the woman in Florida who has been a
> vegetable since 1990.  They are going to remove her feeding tube...
> They
> say she will *probably* die in about two weeks.... Does anybody else
> find
> this disturbing?  I suppose they will have her loaded up on pain meds?
>  Is
> it better for her to go this way... or would it be better for someone
> to
> give her a lethal dose of something?
>
>
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