Andrew 

>Are you using the free version of sniffer? Or did you deliberately change
your .exe name in your posting to sniffer.exe to hide your licence number?

:) Yes

>I certainly expect that the rulebase lag with the free version will result
in lower Message Sniffer hit rates.

>I've seen the free version with hit rates as low as 10% on the remaining
messages that have been already filtered by a gateway, which I thought was
still decent because these were the messages that had already evaded the
blacklist tests.  And free is good.

That's the problem. I'm not using the free version but am still getting what
I consider to be poor results, poor enough to consider whether it's worth
the outlay. I don't often get SNIFFER solely detecting junkmail that other
tests haven't found. Part of the problem may lie with Declude as some SPAM
seem to completley bypass Declude (but that's only a small fraction of the
total). 

Regards

David 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Message Sniffer Community
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Waller
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:46 AM
> To: Message Sniffer Community
> Subject: Re: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Concerned about amount 
> of spam going through
> 
> We just use a single test, we don't categorise. If SNIFFER returns a 
> result we weight it. However, SNIFFER oftens returns a zero result 
> when the email is obviously junk i.e.
> SNIFFER returns a positive result (spam) in about 30% of all 
> identified junk mail.
> 
> SNIFFER external nonzero "\declude\sniffer\sniffer.exe" 23  0
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Message Sniffer Community
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
> Sent: 06 June 2006 11:17
> To: Message Sniffer Community
> Subject: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Concerned about amount of 
> spam going through
> 
> Hi
> 
> There mus be something wrong with your configuration of the sniffer 
> test(s)
> 
> Here are my numbers from yesterday based on 24462 processed messages
> 
> Date  Test                            SS      SH      HH      
> HS    IMP
> 0605  SNIFFER-TRAVEL          12      0       0       23      2
> 0605  SNIFFER-INSUR           4       0       0       0       0
> 0605  SNIFFER-AV                      0       0       0       
> 0     0
> 0605  SNIFFER-MEDIA           1345    0       0       0       8
> 0605  SNIFFER-SWARE           73      0       0       0       0
> 0605  SNIFFER-SNAKE           8386    0       0       0       9
> 0605  SNIFFER-SCAMS           138     0       0       2       3
> 0605  SNIFFER-PORN            908     0       0       1       3
> 0605  SNIFFER-MALWARE         12      0       0       2       3
> 0605  SNIFFER-INK                     2       0       0       
> 0     0
> 0605  SNIFFER-RICH            2865    0       0       2       219
> 0605  SNIFFER-CREDIT          363     0       0       0       1
> 0605  SNIFFER-CASINO          300     0       0       0       0
> 0605  SNIFFER-GENERAL         2881    0       0       41      41
> 0605  SNIFFER-EXP-A           450     0       0       36      7
> 0605  SNIFFER-OBFUSC          4       0       0       5       0
> 0605  SNIFFER-EXP-IP          28      0       0       8       5
> 
> 
> SS    Sniffer says spam, final result too
> SH    Sniffer says spam, final result not
> HH    Sniffer says ham, final result too
> HS    Sniffer says ham, final result not
> 
> IMP   Sniffer says spam and final result is slight above the 
> hold weight.
>       (This column is a part of the SS-column: 100-150% of hold)
>       So
>       a.) it's an important test because it's able to bring the spam above

> the hold
>           weight and without this test it wasn't hold as spam.
>       or
>       b.) it's a risky test because it brings legit messages above the
hold 
> weight
> 
> What result codes are you using in your test configuration? 
> (please not publish your sniffer-id!)
> 
> Markus
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Message Sniffer Community
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von David Waller
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juni 2006 11:51
> > An: Message Sniffer Community
> > Betreff: Re: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Concerned about amount of spam 
> > going through
> > 
> > Of all SPAM identified SNIFFER is finding about 30%. We see
> an awful
> > lot of junk email not being caught by SNIFFER, it's being
> processed by
> > Declude and failing some technical tests but not by SNIFFER.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Message Sniffer Community
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
> > Sent: 06 June 2006 09:41
> > To: Message Sniffer Community
> > Subject: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Concerned about amount of spam going 
> > through
> > 
> > > I only see Sniffer catching about 30% of SPAM and that's
> > the highest
> > > it's ever been.
> > 
> > 30% of spam or 30% of all processed messages?
> > Sniffer is still one of the best tests in my arsenal.
> > 
> > Markus
> > 
> > 
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