On the ones that I see get through, (image spams,) I usually see a Sniffer
triggered update within 60 minutes after that and then that stops them.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of
> Pete McNeil
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:43 AM
> To: Message Sniffer Community
> Subject: [sniffer] Re: Stock spam
> 
> Hello Herb,
> 
> Tuesday, December 12, 2006, 12:32:09 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > We were seeing lots of unmarked pump and dump stock spam a week or so
> > ago but now almost non is getting thru. Sniffer is catching most of it
> > and some other declude and rbl tests are as well.
> 
> It's interesting to see such mixed results posted. It makes me wonder
> what the differences are between the systems reporting high catch
> rates (which we also see, once a campaign has been analyzed) and low
> catch rates.
> 
> Also -- are the poor catch rates reported on text based stock-push
> spams or image based?
> 
> Text based stock-push leakage is not likely because we generally catch
> these very fast and there are a range of rules in place to capture new
> campaigns even before we've seen them - so if you have this kind of
> leakage and it persists then start looking for problems with your
> system (errors, rulebase updates working, etc...)
> 
> Image based stock-push is a problem, as is all image spam, but we do
> generally get these handled pretty fast. If you haven't already -
> recognize that since about mid September the black hats have
> significantly shifted toward image spam, have increased their volumes
> by between 4x and 20x (depending on who you talk to), and have
> increased the rate at which new campaigns are launched by at least 5x.
> 
> If you are seeing image spam leakage check your weighting system (if
> you have one) and be sure that SNF rule groups 60 and 61 are rated
> highly enough to hold a message on their own. Previously we had always
> advised that SNF plus at least one other test should be required to
> hold a message simply for philosophical reasons: no single test should
> hold a message in order to improve accuracy. Unfortunately the recent
> changes in blackhat behavior are such that SNF is often the only test
> to fire on image spams so it has become necessary to abandon that
> tactic in order to minimize leakage.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> _M
> 
> --
> Pete McNeil
> Chief Scientist,
> Arm Research Labs, LLC.
> 
> 
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